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I’m just sort of curious how it is that someone can be nominally legitimately accused of hypocrisy for not doing two things that she doesn’t have the authority to do.
By troll farmers and their useful idiots who want to depress blue turnout in the election by leveraging the average Americans’ (yes even the oh so theory read leftists) political illiteracy both in terms of what a president actually has authority to do and also in terms of what possible consequences might actually be on the line if you just flip the table like these people are demanding.
And before anyone shows their ass, I’m Palestinian American, my grandfather’s family are Nakba victims still stuck in Jordan, and I’m much more worried about Truck Nuts McGee feeling re-emboldened to threaten my life in public for wearing my Kufiya than I am about feeling like some kind of traitor or hypocrite for voting for Biden despite pulling my hair out over how much he’s at least publicly soft gloving Netenyahu.
Baddi A3eish, Bedna N3aesh.
Flipping the table creates terrorism, ie every instance of the US occupying foreign territories…
Not every instance, Western Europe and Japan post war were pretty smooth transitioning out of occupation.
I think the difference is that with them the US had actually fully subdued the enemy force in question before switching to occupation mode
The victor is not victorious until the vanquished considers themself so.
Clearly Yanis means the USA not her specifically. He is critiquing the contradiction between the current action taken by the USA and the spin that its representatives broadcast to mollify people concerned about an ongoing genocide. Isn’t that crystal clear? We all know, Yanis knows, you even know, that Harris is not the sole arbiter of America’s culpability in this mess so the inference is clear. He is speaking towards the institution that she as Vice President is a figurehead of, the USA.
But shouldn’t this imply unity in the governing body and that every opinion of every high bureaucrat expressing the common opinion? Otherwise it seems a bit illogical to attack specific claims by a specific person even if that person is VP
No. Because contex matters.
The context is that the Vp has no power This pic makes no sense.
Maybe it makes no sense to you. Maybe you cannot understand simple inferences. That’s not the end of the world.
But, the problem here is that a review of the aggregation of your comments on other topics would lead me to believe that you are a functioning adult. One that it is able to play with nuance and one that is fiercely partisan in their belief’s.
So instead of playing your condescending game, of trying to exhaust commenters that have opinions you disagree with, why not be a little braver and just spell out your actual position. People are generally civil on this forum. Engage with them honestly.
Thank you for saying this in a way that it could sorta land… I should know better than to try to articulate a nuanced point in response to the “umm actually” crowd.
She’s literally the Vice President of the USA - one of the faces that represent the government. Not some random powerless person. If it’s not directed at her personally, then who personally should be named and shamed?
The President and Congress have control over funding and weapons sales.
The Vice President is more effectively just a figurehead for all but resolving ties in the Senate. The VP obviously has a stronger voice than most but little actual power to do anything directly in our government.
What more is a figurehead good for then? A figurehead is the government personifed, and you’re complaining about taking a shot at it using that framing. Are you proposing that Biden is not getting enough flack and all our energies are being wasted on Harris? Because I really don’t think that’s happening here.
You’re technically correct, but so wrong in your critique of this. It’s a political framing that may not be Fact, but it is True - she’s the voice of the government, lamenting a disaster that it created. In much the same way that you present a fact that doesn’t get at the Truth.
You’re missing the point.
Oh I’m not missing anything, it’s not exactly news that the US government often does one thing and says another when it comes to things our allies do or want. I’m just pointing out that the VP has very little actual power. Your original comment seems to assume the VP actually has power to do things directly, which is simply not true, especially with anything involving the budget and the military.
Stop shilling for this administration dude. They don’t give a shit about you.
Ah yes, I forgot that on the modern internet, pointing out simple facts taught by Schoolhouse Rock videos aired during weekend cartoons is shilling.
Anything else requires actual thinking and that’s just asking too much for some.
Fuck Putin, and fuck Bitch Trump.
“you are correct but…”
“may not be fact but is true”
Bro…
There will be no end to tying all of the warfare to the US.
Israel and HAMAS are being used to divide the US before the election.
And the fascist Republicans are the ones benefiting.
It’s tied to the US for very good reason. Israel is effectively a vassal state to the US, and the US has used its veto power at the UNSC dozens and dozens and dozens of times to block resolutions directed at Israel, all while providing it with arms to commit atrocity after atrocity. If you don’t see how the US is deeply enmeshed in this, you are simply misinformed. This situation wouldn’t happen wothout US interference.
yanis is a weirdo who constantly oversimplifies problems.
I dissagree. It is a complicated situation yes. But the hypocrisis in this case is indeed obvious and very straight forward.
His economic views maybe can be too simplified but overall I think he’s quite brilliant
Yeah I don’t think this is all on her - whether Israel continues to be armed by the U.S. She may have power but not the power to decide single-handedly how this operation is carried out. But I agree, she needs to help push for an end to Israel’s campaign of genocide. At least she’s coming out on the side of stopping this and blaming Netanyahu (which will fall on deaf ears anyway).
we’re not going to isolate Israel, that’s exactly why they were attacked in the first place… so many stupid people with access to a keyboard…
