“Walt Bismarck,” a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section “Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup”.

It turns out they don’t like him, they don’t like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don’t take to him. The frauleins prefer “stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains” over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

  • Mii
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    This was worse than I imagined from the quotes. I feel like I need to take a shower, now.

    […] which would severely limit the Federal Reserve’s ability to control the economy while exporting inflation abroad, and likely bring our material standard of living down to a German or Dutch level

    According to this Quality of Life index which I just searched up and have not critically assessed, but I doubt the guy did that either for his claims, so I guess it’s fine, the Netherlands rank second and Germany ranks 12th, while the US is on the 15th place. In other words: what is he even talking about?

    Every day in this country more and more Hispanics marry corn-fed blonde midwesterners and produce pale Castizo children who only speak English, consider themselves basically White, and vote like Irish and Italians.

    Jesus fucking Christ, I can’t even come up with a funny sneer here because this reads like he just pulled it out of the 1940s Nazi Party’s bag of race laws for who’s allowed to marry whom, and it’s making me feel icky.

    I also subscribe to the old fascist idea that adversity gives life meaning. A comfortable and easy life without struggle or conflict is miserable, and just makes you a slave to the hedonic treadmill. When you live for pleasure, no pleasure is ever enough, and continued success will just leave you so pampered that any task that’s challenging or outside your comfort zone will begin to feel onerous.

    Ignoring the low-hanging fruit that this guy just flat-out said “well, fascism wasn’t all bad”, what kind of toxic consumer mentality is ingrained in these chucklefucks that they are seemingly unable so sit their sorry asses down on the couch and just say, yeah, I’m happy right now, to the point where they just postulate that other people must feel the same way, because they just can’t imagine anyone being different?

    Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

    • David GerardOPM
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      always love* it when these guys get so race scientist they start on different groups of white people

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        This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

        This is also what it means when the antiracists say race is a social construct.

        You can’t actually define any of these races rigorously in the first place. It’s a subjective assessment. The racists define race backwards from tribe in order to categorize the people they hate as physically different to justify their hate

        • @[email protected]
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          This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

          And fascism! Or any discriminatory -ism, up to and including capitalism.

      • Charlie Stross
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        @dgerard Whiteness is a movable feast. (Ask anyone who’s Jewish, or LGBT+, or Italian/Irish in the USA in the 19th century or Hispanic in the USA before/after the 1970s).

        • @[email protected]
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          Ayuuuuuuuup. Movable feast is a great term for it. Even once formerly ostracized groups get permitted into the in-group, their membership is strictly conditional on serving the interests of those closer into the center of the Whiteness construct. Stop being useful, watch how fast the old hate rears its ugly head again.

        • @[email protected]
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          His glowing reference to the “aggro Scots Irish” reminded me that the “Scots Irish” are descended from Ulster Protestants, and that it wasn’t fun being an Irish Catholic in Northern Ireland for much of the 20th century. Ian Paisley famously said that Catholics “breed like rabbits”.

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        I suspect there are people who have complicated theories about the relative whiteness rankings, and thus superiority, of natives of Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands.

    • brvslvrnst
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      Dude, showering is exactly what I feel like now. I clicked the post to be nice and read, but only got a couple paragraphs before I just skimmed and picked out the “JFC” bits.

      Then the first comment on the blog mentions how sad it is that you lose your “genetic whiteness” in 9 generations and just…goddamn…why is this an issue? Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of “keeping it white.”

      I try to be empathetic where possible, but fuck these people and their entire worldview.

      • @[email protected]
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        Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of “keeping it white.”

        you assume that he has basic knowledge of biology

        • I Cast Fist
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          I, for one, vote for these “genetic purists” to only procreate with their peers and keep the circle closed from “those dirty Italians/Irish/Scots/Teutons/Slavs”. How many generations until the problem solves itself, 5?

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      At least he’s old school racist enough to be racist towards Irish and Italians.

      Most people have forgotten, or were never educated on, how oppressed those groups used to be.

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      Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

      For real. I don’t even necessarily disagree with the broad-strokes idea of “if you’re comfortable, it’s good to take on challenges and get outside of your comfort zone because that’s how you grow as a person,” but why can’t he just apply this energy to writing a terrible novel or learning to paint watercolors or something, like a normal person? Why does the fact his life is comfortable mean he has to become a Nazi? :/

    • @[email protected]
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      In a nutshell, he ended up hating many Germans, white and almost white Hispanics, Irish, Italians, who else…? Pickiest white supremacist I’ve read in a while.

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      He’ll be judging standard of living by raw GDP/PPP per capita, where the US does indeed notoriously outperform everybody by an absurd margin. This does the rounds even on the “serious” econ net every few months, and it’s always the same paper thin sophistic ideas going back and forth arguing whether it’s telling you something meaningful about euro vs us living. In any case a good portion of self-assessed intellectual types have been drowning in that debate for about two decades (or more) so it’s always easy to spot lurking in the background: it’s a shibboleth for people who’ve self-educated on development by reading blogs.

    • @eatthecake
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      Seems like he gets his pleasure from ‘conflict’, ie being a troll, and is upset that all the other white boys aren’t just like him. Maybe he finds being content too onerous. Tie him to a couch and force him to listen to a polite discussion, call it a challenge.

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      I will gladly take the bullet and live on the hedonic treadmill. Seriously how spoiled is someone who is living without struggle or conflict. Granted it could be worse but there are always challenges in life.

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        Just remind yourself that there was a literal global pandemic not that long ago and being mildly inconvenienced by wearing a simple mask caused these people to lose their fucking minds as though every single one of their freedoms was being stripped away.

        • tygerprints
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          Yeah if anything condemns humanity, it’s the way these assholes reacted to the simple requirement to wear a mask to keep from infecting others. Their total unwillingness to act in a responsible and mindful way, pretty much says all there is to about he basic evil nature of mankind and how most people aren’t worth a pile of dog excrement - none of them will be or could ever be redeemed.

          • @[email protected]
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            It certainly gave me a clear indication of how well significant measures against climate change will be tolerated. ie, not at all.

            • tygerprints
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              Well I live in Utah where the legislature is actively committed to forbidding measures that will mitigate climate change, such as passing laws that allow oil and gas companies to ignore any guidelines about emissions and to promote more pollution as much as possible.

            • @John_McMurray
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              You “trust the science” types are all the same, don’t want to admit a t-shirt wrapped around your face never prevented viral transmission. Wait till it get’s cold outside, go breath into sub freezing temps through that rag, look at that vapor trail, N95 mask has no trail in those conditions. Congratulations, you’ve just proven cloth masks don’t work and you need to STFU.

            • @John_McMurray
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              The mod is the biggest piece of disingenuous shit I’ve seen today.

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        Yeah, the joke is that he just assumes living a comfortable life without struggle equals falling down the consoomer rabbit hole and blowing your dopamine stores on watching porn the whole day or something, and not that you could use it for any number of fulfilling activities.

        I’d take the boring, comfy life any time, and when I want something challenging to do, I pick learning to play the violin over going out and starting a race war, thank you very much.

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          exactly. I never understood folks who had trouble with retirement to. I can garden, or read, or walk, or volunteer, or just an infinite number of things.

            • @[email protected]M
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              a curious game. the only way to win is to not flood a thread calling out a white supremacist with slurs, nazi shit, and covid misinformation

              WOPR catches fire and the 37-year-old chan poster puppeteering it from the inside runs out screaming

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      Dutch level

      Yeah The Netherlands sucks a lot of if you only listen to the racist right. (A similar thing would happen if you were to listen to the poor Dutch minorities/disabled people/immigrants etc and took that as the whole of the Dutch experience (which is to say we still have room for improvement, and some people have it a lot better than others)).

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        There’s a difference in having a personality that gets easily bored of luxury and believing conflict is what inherently gives life a meaning. Maus puts it: “Suffering doesn’t make people better, it just makes them suffer”

        If someone’s life is so damn easy and hedonistic they’re actually getting bored of it, there are good ways and bad ways of introducing adversity and getting out of your comfort zone. The negation of being a slave to the hedonic treadmill[1] is not an eternal war for domination.

        1: A strange figure of speech, who the hell thinks treadmills are hedonistic?

        • @John_McMurray
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          Ok so suffering wasn’t mentioned before, you brought that in. Struggle or conflict was. It’s just basically a Captain Kirk speech on humanity.

  • @Sekrayray
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    “I moved to a place to be surrounded by white people, and decided I didn’t like white people because those white people weren’t hostile enough nor did they have enough of a desire to conquer other people. This made me realize white people are weak, so now I’m disappointed in them. But actually it’s because the white people in that area came from inferior nations 🤡.”

    That’s the premise of the article to save you from having to read absolute horse shit. That guy is a waste of atoms.

    • @[email protected]
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      I would summarize as, “I learned that just being born white doesn’t make you superior to others…” yes yes yes yes “…because there are white people who suck, too.” Oh no.

      It’s like asking someone what “4+4” is and then they write out this long algorithm inexplicably including division and multiplication and some functions for some reason, and at the end they come up with 9. It took you so long to get so close, but in the end you still completely fucked it up.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 months ago

      Basically he’s like the dudes who left Twitter for Gab or Truth Social and found it boring because there weren’t any libs to own.

  • @[email protected]
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    At first I wondered why a post about a man disavowing white supremacy wasn’t NSFW; but it’s because he didn’t get any better? He’s not a white supremacist because white supremacy is too inclusive and not racist enough against the shittier whites? He concluded that an ENTIRE GEOGRAPHICAL REGION was genetic backwash before he considered self-reflection?

    It is completely insane what the substack/X combo is doing to young men. It’s like CTE but concentrated entirely on the part of your brain that lets you tolerate other races.

    • @captainlezbian
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      Well yeah, because he’s the sort of person who becomes a white supremacist. They’re not smart people, they’re miserable people looking for something to blame for their own failures. So yeah of course he decided to blame midwesterners for being the catholic Germans instead of the Protestant Germans

    • @[email protected]
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      172 months ago

      Also this comment from the motte is definitely ethnonationalist, no?

      Agreed, though, that a lot of white Americans are kind of like hobbits, in their lack of antibodies against general blank slatism, outgroup preferences, and progressive American culture. They might make a stink face at the young white male cosmopolitan who arrives in town for an extended study abroad program, but will root for outsiders and people that hate them when it comes to college football/basketball, the NFL, the NBA. Quokka would be the rationalist sphere term of art, here. “Cucks” might even apply. Relatedly, this has been touched upon in the Norf FC series of memes with regard to whites on the other side of the pond.

      It’s the Motte special. Comments that are structurally culture critiques, but functionally a Turner Diaries summary.

      • @[email protected]
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        The way tha “cuck” has been elevated to a genuine category in their armchair social science is such a warm breeze of insanity whenever I come across it

        • @[email protected]
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          Internet weirdo to salt-of-the-earth Midwesterners: at least you’re all not cucks!

          SotEMW: cucks?

          IW: you know, like that porn where a white dude watches black dudes fuck his wife!

          SotEMW: <racks shotgun slide> get the hell away from my daughter

          • @[email protected]
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            At this point I have to genuinly wonder how many people using the term “cuck” actually have any idea what it means.

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        I dont know if I’m not as smart as I thought, or not as knowledgeable in pseudoscience as I thought because this just reads to me like someone who sniffs their own farts stroking their ego because they shit out a comment they think is incredibly meaningful.

        • @[email protected]
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          He’s (very wordly) paraphrasing the common esoteric right wing belif that anti-racism is a belief only truly held by whites, and that it is simultaneously the contemporary western white’s only mistake.

          A cousin from the same parent thread goes a step further and claims that whites…

          I think he seems to have realized a terrible truth for a lot of WNs who are deeply used to their particular kind of persecution complex and enemy hierarchy, which is that much of the state of the modern west is a direct product of the ‘white temperament’ and white population preferences, possibly on a genetic level.

          …are GENETICALLY inclined to support diversity, which is a claim so fantastically racist that it might just offend everyone on Earth.

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          Agreed. This person is basically just discovering he doesn’t actually like people in a general sense and he can’t use the self gaslighting notion of skin color to pretend there’s people out there he actually likes. His window of acceptable is so small he’s practically the only one who can squeeze through.

          In part he can’t let go of whiteness as a label and synonym of superiority so when he finds a version of whiteness he finds subpar and unworthy by his own veiws of what it should be he compares that version of whiteness to… (checks notes) the Ming dynasty Chinese. He starts describing everything in what has been trained into him as language describing the inferior.

          All he ever really wanted was to be openly horrible to everyone with little to no consequences… Because kindness and empathy is just not something he understands. If it doesn’t serve him directly it’s trash. It’s easy to pretend to an in-group when you just shout the same nonsense and get rewarded with pats on the back for playing along, but that doesn’t translate to people legitimately caring about you. It’s not actual empathy and human connection. It’s just reciprocity. The minute you stop playing tit-for-tat in a reciprocity based movement for any reason you get abandoned. This guy is so far along that pipeline that he can’t leave and can’t distinguish the human in anyone. It’s sad.

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            Completely agree. But while it is sad, at the same time I also am starting to lose empathy for them because they get to a point where they start to just want everyone to be miserable like they are. And when you get enough of them, they can start doing some real damage.

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              Yeah… I don’t mean sad in a “I want to make taking on their bullshit and trying to redeem them my personal project” kind of way. They desire empathy and I can understand where they come from (even if it’s grounded in evil bullshit) but babystepping them bit by bit into being reasonable to be around is gunna light whomever tries to do it’s mental health on fire.

              I do not afford them empathy. Saying that I understand and feel the situation is sad isn’t pathos. They made this bed through a series of conscious choices and there is a human cost to believing what they believe that is unconscionable. I am simply sad that the situation has progressed to this.

        • David GerardOPM
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          “blank slatism”, here used to mean those fools that don’t think race science is true

        • synae[he/him]
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          I think it should be hyphenated, “blank-slatism” but I can’t be bothered to figure out what meaning the term is supposed to convey.

  • iAmTheTot
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    I made it embarrassingly far into this article, but it was “five figure wagecuck hell” that for some reason made me stop and think, why am I still reading this garbage?

    • David GerardOPM
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      Welcome to the abyss! Here’s your hazmat suit with a leak! It sucks here!

    • valaramech
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      I made it a lot farther before I just couldn’t anymore. I was kinda hoping for some kind of real self-reflection or ability to further understand the mindset of people like him but it’s just the same “sigma grindset” bullshit they always spout.

  • Sailor Sega Saturn
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    TL;DR: “I’m no longer a white nationalist because a lot of white people are cucked. Now my new identity is with sufficiently pilled white people. This is much more pragmatic. Also I would totally have a cool black friend if any actually existed which means I’m totally not racist.”

    Also: did anyone else feel a chill reading about a literal nazi talking about how society accepts him now? America used to despise nazis and now they feel like they can walk around openly. It’s terrifying.

    • @[email protected]
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      I reacted to that too, “no need to be an overt WN now that society accepts us!” but I think that’s partly bravado.

      For example, he loves Twitter now but Elon still hasn’t given his account back…

    • @[email protected]
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      Yes, that stuck with me very much. It’s one thing to hear fellow leftists talk about how Trump shifted the Overton window. It’s a whole different thing to hear that a Nazi fully feels the effects of it having truly shifted.

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    This reminds me of a report from the Nazi ambassador to Iceland sometime in the late 1930s. He was posted there, expecting to find a model Aryan utopia, as could only be inevitable from a population of pure Nordic blood, but was bitterly disappointed to find a provincial backwater whose people were happy to stay put and get on with their lives. The schadenfreude was palpable.

  • @[email protected]
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    Dude writes with the type of unnecessarily wordy rhetoric that it makes me think he uses a thesaurus and chooses the biggest word he sees for a replacement.

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      the neoreactionary bloggers from the early 2010s, every one of the fuckers writes like this - they all fucking love Mencius Moldbug and think that’s the model of the best possible writing

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        Tbh I like it, even if the content is vile shitpoison. But I also like that super crunchy, pulpy type of writing that lacks subtlety, so my taste in prose is objectively bad.

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          lol. I know people who love the poetry of Moldbug’s writing style. I am …not one.

    • TheHarpyEagle
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      That and the way he acts like he’s totally objective and pragmatic, definitely not scared to death of PoC.

    • @[email protected]
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      I would dare wager that he utilizes a tome of the variety known as “thesaurus” likewise as you just have

  • @[email protected]
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    Low testosterone German Catholics

    hahahaha

    These idiots will never get the message that scientific racism is dog shit. They can’t stop obsessing over weird irrelevant shit

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      I love the criticizing the Midwest for bland conformity. Like that’s more our thing than being disturbingly monoracial. Next he’s gonna bitch about the goths at Walmart and the refusal to spend money on luxury goods. That’s just what the Midwest is like

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      I saw @gerikson’s comments after seeing this one and had to click on the tiny thumbnail of his profile pic to make sure it wasn’t this exact Squidward face.

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    Lol he needs to get the fuck out of here

    Sincerely, A far left Midwestern queer lady who grew up German Catholic

  • TomMasz
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    “During the early 2010s White Americans were under serious attack as a collective in a way that warranted an organized response.”

    White American here and I can unequivocally state that this was not true then and it’s not true now.

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      I had to really think hard about what happened in 2010 for him to allege such a thing and for the life of me I couldn’t think of anything until I realized that we elected a black president in 2008, so perhaps I just didn’t watch enough conservative media which presumably was giving it’s users a constant barrage of your “under attack” fud.

  • @[email protected]
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    You guys notice how he capitalizes “white” but not “black” even when they’re used in the same sentence? A pathetic little weirdo to the last little detail.

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      also capitalizes a couple other racial group references when the mood strikes, all “tactically” used/chosen

      the amount of effort you have to expend just to hate that specifically… fucking mental

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        i’m shocked that regular midwest socially conservative normal people didn’t flock to him

  • @[email protected]
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    he’s clearly still convinced that if you could just purge the degenerates you’d get a utopia. but his post is a nice illustration of how if that actually happens they’ll just keep inventing new ways to classify people as degenerate. fascists need, at all times, a face to stamp on

    • @[email protected]
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      It is a fantastic example that their racist delusions are all made up. Whiteness is whatever they feel like in the moment. “These Chads and Staceys are a genetically inferior low-T line of white, I am the real lineage.”

  • @[email protected]
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    Post reads like he tried the penis implants mentioned in the stubsack and now has regrets

    • @[email protected]
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      In this article I’ll be making a distinction between what I call Hard WN and Soft WN.

      In this article I will mostly be describing why I left Soft WN.

      oh dawg

    • @[email protected]
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      I didn’t previously know I needed this in my life but “mentioned in the stubsack” needs to become a household phrase

    • @[email protected]
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      102 months ago

      Genital augmentation and the word “stubsack” in the same sentence is an awkward cocktail.

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s impossible to stop returning to that steaming pile of dogshit post and find something new to sneer at:

    As Delicious Tacos aptly put it, a Far Left phase is treated like a woman eating pussy in college, while a Far Right phase is treated like a man sucking cock.

    SO? WHATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU WASTE OF SPACE?

    • @[email protected]
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      If I could talk to him I might say - I mean, if you are out of your Far Right phase (and it was really just a phase) maybe the idea of a man sucking cock shouldn’t be your go-to example of a thing you imply can never be forgiven.

      But that’s none of my business, I’m just a puppet depicting a frog drinking tea.

    • @[email protected]
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      So much to unpack. What the fuck is “Far Left”? How do you treat women eating pussy? Differently in college than after college? Why?

      I completely agree with framing all Alt Righters as cocksuckers, but I’m not sure that’s what was meant here.

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        You’ve got to get in their twisted headspace* to decode it. They mean the former is somewhat acceptable straight behavior, while the latter is “too gay” for stupid reasons.

        *not recommended for longer periods of time

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          Ignore me I feel stupider just trying to explain it idk, but I’m just straight enough that I can see what they mean even if I can’t really translate it for a normal person

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            That right there illustrates what that comment actually means. As a man, I’m assuming you are because of the context of being just straight enough to understand this, traditional society has created this expectation of manliness. That includes having an emotional, and especially a sexual, barrier against other men.

            This expectation is not socially present in women. So it’s “ok” from a social standpoint to be a woman into women, but it violates manliness protocol for a man to be into men.

            What this guy in the original comment is demonstrating is that he is entirely beholden to traditional social protocol, and he’s making the comparison, somewhat ironically, that being far right is viewed as a violation of the same social expectations while being far left isn’t.

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              No, you just don’t understand. The real punks want to codify existing social and sexual norms into inviolable legally enforced rules backed by state violence.

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              52 months ago

              Just to underscore this, the Bible explicitly condemns male-on-male homosexuality and doesn’t even mention female-on-female.

              Although a true white chad society like ancient Greece understands that there’s nothing more manly than the love between two men.

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        152 months ago

        You’re lucky that you don’t know all the fucked stereotypes going into this. If you really wanna know, I’m pretty sure it’s:

        • parts of mainstream society is only homophobic against gay behavior in men
        • gay behavior in women instead “doesn’t count”, or “isn’t serious”
        • therefore people thinking like this will accept a women “coming out of a lesbian phase” whereas they look down upon men who didn’t behave 100% heterosexual