• Tar_Alcaran
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    196 months ago

    When the CIA is better at predicting terrorist actions in your country than your own intelligence service.

        • @nivenkos
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          -86 months ago

          Innocent people have died, why are you making jokes about a fictional video game (clear evidence the propaganda works) and accusing them of being executed by their own government like a 9/11 Truther?

          ISIS have claimed responsibility. We should show solidarity with the victims - we too have been victims of similar ISIS attacks in the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Israel, etc.

          Hopefully Russia can do well in the fight against Islam.

          • Tar_Alcaran
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            6 months ago

            and accusing them of being executed by their own government like a 9/11 Truther?

            Because Putin has a track record of getting the FSB to do exactly this. It’s how Putin started the 2nd Chechnyan war after the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings.

            It also fits pretty flawlessly into the FSB direct action playbook, and convenient avoided anything governmental.

            why are you making jokes about a fictional video game (clear evidence the propaganda works)

            Because OP started it, but mostly because that reference was a lot shorter than typing out the whole thing. Unfortunately, I realize most people aren’t quite as up to date about the excuses for Russian wars or conquest other than the current one.

            Innocent people have died

            And that sucks, but I can’t help but compare this to what Russia does to other innocent people. This seems kinds tiny compared to, say, dropping a scud missile on a grozny market, killing 200 women and children. There are mostly Muslims in Chechnya, so I guess they started their war a long time ago?

            Primarily though, ISIS hadn’t claimed responsibility yet. And even if they have now, that doesn’t preclude FSB involvement.

  • @jacktherippah
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    106 months ago

    American intelligence is fucking top notch. They warned Ukraine about the Russian invasion too.

  • @Fapper_McFapper
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    56 months ago

    Holy shit. Speculating here but what if it is Islamic terrorist taking revenge on Russia? What if they sense Russia is weak and can be taken down from the inside. Again, just wild speculation.

  • SteefLem
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    46 months ago

    If they called it. Pooptin was either to proud or let it happen.

  • @[email protected]
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    So what do you folks think, is the (supposed!) foiled IS plan somehow tied to this? Is this garden variety islamic terrorism by Chechnyans or Dagestani or Ingushetians etc., or is it eg. separatists (which can overlap with religious motive), or pissed off vets?

      • @[email protected]
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        26 months ago

        Heh yeah I just finished typing a comment that my bet is that it’s either IS or the FSB. I’d give 'em about 50/50 odds, really. Maybe 65/35.

    • @[email protected]
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      66 months ago

      If I had to make a guess, whoever was involved didn’t expect to come out alive.

      And it targeted the general public, not the government.

      I’d guess Islamic stuff is more likely than upset veterans.

      But I suppose that if it’s part of a larger group, that someone will probably claim responsibility.

      • @[email protected]
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        36 months ago

        Yeah my bet is some IS offshoot from the Caucasus, or the FSB.

        It’s honestly not all that unlikely that Putin’s behind this one, just like with the apartment building bombings in '99 that got blamed on the Chechens and were used as part of the pretext for war. I know the Ukrainian HUR is claiming that they know this was a false flag, but I’m going to hold my judgement until more information comes in.