• Raging LibTarg
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    1511 months ago

    I hope I live long enough to see this “Election Denialism” bullshit go away. And by go away, I hope that someday we figure out a way to marginalize this whole denialism of reality trend so that it is nothing but a fringe idea that can safely be ignored (though we would also hopefully stay vigilant in case this kind of thing were to happen again).

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      811 months ago

      The more people see public figures deny reality (Bush, Trump, DeSantis, everyone at Fox, Sarah Sanders, MGT, etc.) and be rewarded for it, the more people will attempt to build platforms on denialism.

    • @books
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      211 months ago

      It’s always been around, just fortunately not as amplified as it currently is.

      Prior to 2008, it was all the black box voting people (typically left leaning) who thought the system was flipping votes, but it was a small minority of people with absolutely no megaphone. (https://web.archive.org/web/20041119010450/https://blackboxvoting.org/)

      It’s just been extremely amplified because of Trump and his crew, and the pandemic. Where lots of jurisdictions changed voting rules to allow for safe voting, and people freaked out. They sort of lump those (changing state election laws) with election/voting fraud. Which sort of sucks because it does really convolute the issue.

      Like, I can sort of see why groups would challenge laws that change voting rules outside the windows in which they are legally allowed (but I also see why judges would side on the States side for pandemic safety)… I can’t for the life of me justify claims of rampant fraud… as there is literally no evidence, and multiple recounts/audits have fallen within acceptable margins of error.

  • @books
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    911 months ago

    I’ve mentioned this before.

    Elections have tons of deadlines. Tons. Running elections is actually challenging. It’s not just dropping ballots off at a polling place. Tons of statutes both political partiea watching your office like a hawk, tons of special interest groups calling, emailing, buying your rolls, asking xyz of the data.

    If these people win, they will have to work and if they fail to work they will be tied up in litigation, and foia requests.

    I wouldn’t want that job ever.

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      11 months ago

      Washington is a 70/30 liberal/conservative state. Its only recently that dems got a supermajority, as there has always been some degree of “reasonable” republican. The state had the habit of voting a republican in as the Secretary of state, which whas the case for decades until recently. Washington is a “mail in voting only” state with buckets of armored drop boxes, something both groups used to agree on, and to their credit, many of the republican SOS improved on.

      The stateside GOP has gotten more extreme in the last 5 years and are pushing utterly laugable candidates. Culp, the last GOP governor canidate, was the one and only cop in a small rural town. Literally no leadership experience. He failed to even submit a “this is what i stand for” statement for the voting pamphlet and was ultimately fired from his cop job when he was out campaigning instead of working.