• @grue
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    627 months ago

    “Urban sprawl” is an oxymoron. Dense urban areas are good, actually; it’s only the suburbs that sprawl.

    • @FireRetardant
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      467 months ago

      It should be called suburban sprawl

      • @merari42OP
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        197 months ago

        Agreed. Suburban sprawl I meant

      • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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        17 months ago

        It should be called the place with trees and loosely densely population that would be okay if cars weren’t so ubiquitous because some people like space but let’s make sure not to exclude minorities so people don’t end up racist.

    • The Octonaut
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      187 months ago

      This is not true? Lots of urban areas can sprawl, not least because of car centric planning (big car parks between islands of actual land use; roads built to ease the traffic of roads; urban ‘islands’ of tall and dense occupation connected by road with slivers of green in-between that don’t serve to actually offer a natural environment. Kuala Lumpur features all of these, for example) but also as economic centres decline and become disused and new developments in other areas spread.

      • @[email protected]
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        27 months ago

        Especially they sprawl when the developers are allowed to do as they please. They want the most profitable option, which is barren and opposed to what people and local government usually want

      • @grue
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        157 months ago

        Tokyo (mostly) isn’t sprawl; that’s just how much space 40 million people take up.

        • @[email protected]
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          27 months ago

          That’s still urban sprawl though. It doesn’t need to be inefficient, it just needs to be constantly expanding.

      • @[email protected]
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        57 months ago

        That is still better than the alternative of suburbs. Could it be better designed or something. Idk, maybe.

        • @scholar
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          17 months ago

          The urban area is 80 miles across

          • @[email protected]
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            27 months ago

            Where do you suggest all the people go?

            Are you really anti urban or are you anti people?

            • @scholar
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              I’m anti so many people that you need a dense urban area 80 miles across to fit them all *edit on looking it up it’s not all that dense, it’s just a big sprawling city

                • @scholar
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                  07 months ago

                  Implement proper demography and population growth schemes so that you don’t end up with so many people in the first place, manage your population distribution on a national level so as not to overwhelm the natural resources of any one area, build walkable communities with a variety of density to suit peoples differing needs

  • @aeronmelon
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    397 months ago

    One does not simply walk to downtown. You MUST own a car.

    • synae[he/him]
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      167 months ago

      Thankfully Boromir was wrong, and they do walk into Mordor. At least I don’t have Shelob guarding the way when I go to the movie theater

  • I Cast Fist
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    357 months ago

    Where I live, rich urban areas have plenty of trees and frequently get more planted around. Meanwhile, poorer areas receive zero trees because “they don’t have trees to receive maintenance”.

  • Track_Shovel
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    267 months ago

    Despite what you might think of Skynyrd, they cover this topic in a relatable way. Arcade Fire also covers it kind of. Sorry for the links but I’m a huge music nerd.

    Around here, sprawl is a major issue. We have some of the most fertile soils in the world, and we pave over them without regard. It’s abhorrent. I don’t make the ‘most fertile soils’ comment lightly - this is my area of expertise, professionally. The only other places I can think of that have better soil quality than where I live are Russia and the Ukraine.

    • @RememberTheApollo_
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      77 months ago

      Housing developments that scour the earth bare and named after that which they destroyed. Fox Run, Oak Ridge, Forest Brook, etc…

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      77 months ago

      Despite what you might think of [Skynyrd]

      I think they’re amazing musicians and lyricists who held regressive viewpoints on certain issues which were more socially acceptable in their bygone era.

  • Cyborganism
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    217 months ago

    Also describes the orcs’ drink they gave to the hobbits very much like you would describe coffee

    • Skua
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      147 months ago

      Doesn’t Bilbo make actual coffee for the dwarves at the start of the Hobbit?

    • @fluxion
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      67 months ago

      Not even freshly ground… just like mass produced coffee

      • @kautau
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        37 months ago

        The best part of wakin’ up