• xep
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    29 days ago

    This article from the NY Times seems to be the source: https://archive.li/09NnN

    The title makes it sound like Hamas is shooting Israel’s bombs back at Israel, but Hamas’ arsenal are primarily of Iranian origin. The article reports that they do scavenge explosives from unexploded ordinance, but not the amount. However, they do take large amounts of scrap like plumbing pipes from Israeli settlements, which are used to make bombs.

    I’m not an explosives expert but I would hazard a guess that scavenging missiles and such that don’t go off is not going to be a viable source of material to make more missiles, factoring in the risk involved.

    • @[email protected]
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      929 days ago

      This Medium article is poorly sourced.

      The NYT article is from 2021.

      The oft-repeated idea that Iran supplies the majority of Hamas weapons is also poorly sourced. It is usually attributed to the CIA’s World Factbook or former US generals who now are talking heads for think tanks. These sources are highly biased.

      But one thing that has been well documented is the Hamas unexploded ordinance team. They have over a decade of experience disarming and retrieving Israeli bombs from Gazan homes and businesses.

      • @somethingsnappy
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        2029 days ago

        “That’s poorly sourced, and that’s poorly, sourced, but here is an idea I’m not going to provide a source for” is not a great move.

        • @[email protected]
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          1829 days ago

          Sorry I didn’t want to write an essay, but you’re right, I should have provided more.

          I think it’s obvious the Medium article is poorly sourced- there are no links, no quotes, and no attribution whatsoever. Compare it to a write up like Hamas Recycling Unexploded Ordinance in Gaza, which tells the exact same story but it comes with links and quotes, and it names the source as Michael Cardash, the former deputy head of the Israeli National Police Bomb Disposal Division.

          As for the Iranian connection, I know I’m going against popular opinion, but I made my claims clear and anyone can try to disprove me.

          A quick Google search shows many articles on the bomb disposal unit and tactics inside Gaza dating back to at least 2012. The Inevitable Rearmament of Hamas (2021) gives a good analysis. An even better source for this is the al-Qassam Brigade’s youtube, they post raw war footage including bomb disposal. Unfortunately I dont speak Arabic so I wasnt able to find a specific video.

        • @[email protected]
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          329 days ago

          Oh, you’re too kind! I would like to take credit but in reality I was inspired by people like Chris Jeffries, the writer of this Medium article.

          His confident writing style and utter lack of sources was truly an inspiration.

            • @[email protected]
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              229 days ago

              Yes I think we have the same general thesis here, readers should think critically always.

              Look at the context here, my unsourced internet comment was in response to xep’s unsourced internet comment.

              Xep made 3 claims, and I believe all 3 are incorrect.

  • @TropicalDingdong
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    3029 days ago

    Man if there were only some way to prevent explosives from getting to Hamas…

    • @pivot_root
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      529 days ago

      Oh, I know! Use Palestinian hostages to detonate them on-site. That’ll solve two of Netanyahu’s problems at once /s

      • FlashMobOfOne
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        129 days ago

        You know they’ve probably considered that.

  • Maeve
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    1029 days ago

    Imagine what humanity could do if we used our resources for humanitarian purposes.

    • @KnitWit
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      1429 days ago

      Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

      This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children…

      -President Eisenhower in his ‘chance for peace’ speech

    • @Atin
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      029 days ago

      Such as Hamas using their tunnels for food and medicine instead of missiles from Iran?

      • Maeve
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        729 days ago

        The world I imagine wouldn’t need tunnels, or land grabs or genocide.

        • @Atin
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          -1029 days ago

          You are an idiot if you think Israel has the monopoly on any of those things.

      • @[email protected]
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        29 days ago

        They do use their tunnels to smuggle in food and water. But its not enough and they shouldn’t have to

  • @Daft_ish
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    629 days ago

    Proof the US is supplying Hamas with weapons.