• @Sterile_Technique
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    395 months ago

    The planet is on fire, the nazis are back, we’re taking leaps backwards in civil rights, genocides have become normalized, and the purchasing power of our labor has been hamstrung so many times that it’s a double amputee.

    Who the fuck looks at that dumpster fire and thinks “This is a great environment for a child!”?

      • @bitchkat
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        25 months ago

        Duggers and Musk.

    • @[email protected]
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      5 months ago

      My SO thinks, “We need more people like us”, as if we’re upstanding citizens lol. I mean, we oppose morally deficient nazis, as all nazis are, but otherwise…meh.

      • @Sterile_Technique
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        oppose nazis

        I mean, apparently that’s a lot to ask in today’s world, so your SO isn’t wrong, but having a kid for that purpose is ethically questionable, and cruel as fuck to the individual kid.

        “Sorry lil Timmy, your world is absolutely FUCKED but you’ve been chosen as a bucket of water to throw at the wild fire… good luck!”

        The idea of having a kid is just mean. Or at least whipping one up from scratch is - adopting and raising the kid to be a decent person is the best case scenario here, but that’s obviously a gargantuan undertaking that very few (absolute badass) people are willing and able to do.

        • @[email protected]
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          25 months ago

          you’ve been chosen as a bucket of water to throw at the wild fire

          Given that we live in New Mexico, where wildfires occur yearly and just get worse, that’s an apt metaphor. In fact, we’re getting a bit of smoke now from one. Yay…

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          15 months ago

          You’re not guaranteed that your kid will be anything like you anyways. It probably won’t be considering the massive influence of propaganda in a digital world.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      25 months ago

      In 2019 my wife and I decided to have a kid in 2020. We just wanted to get a few things squared away first. Well, you know what happened in 2020. We changed our mind. Now we’re too old, even if we changed our minds again. Done deal, dude. Thanks trumpy boiy.

  • @[email protected]
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    115 months ago

    There are lots of hard working bright people that are literally dying to come work and live in your country. This is not a population problem. It’s a racism problem.

    • Arghblarg
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      125 months ago

      But immigration <> birth rate. Within 1 or 2 generations those new people will also not want to have kids since they won’t be able to afford anything either.

      • @[email protected]
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        Call me when the global birth rate is falling. Until then it’s a local problem.

        And when the global birth rate is flattening I will throw a fucking party because we can finally start thinking about global sustainability.

        • sylver_dragon
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          25 months ago

          Call me when the global birth rate is falling.

          I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of the phone ringing.
          UN Data shows the Fertility Rate falling from ~2.7 Births per Woman in 2000 to ~2.3 Births per Woman in 2024. Here is a handy chart of the data from 1960 to 2021. Global birth rates have been falling for most of the 20th and 21st centuries. Barring a major shift in demographics, the world’s population should peak this century. That isn’t a terrible thing, and probably a good thing from a climate perspective. But, it will have economic consequences which we will need to deal with (aging populations, economic stagnation, shrinking workforces, shrinking economies). None of this has to be a problem, but those types of demographic changes can cause societal instability.

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            15 months ago

            Don’t be sorry, it’s the best news I’ve heard all decade!

            The maddening thing is that you know the economic consequences would be easier to deal with a bit of solidarity, but we’re not going to.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      25 months ago

      The article is specifically about birth rate, not population decline. It also states that Americans are shrugging their shoulders and don’t consider it a problem. Nice job shoehorning racism into the conversation though.

      • @[email protected]
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        -15 months ago

        Dude, this is just straight up nativist gibberish. It’s about racism. Racism is all it’s about.

  • Buglefingers
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    75 months ago

    I almost had kids, my one and ONLY condition with my partner at the time was a stable living situation, aka a house. It’s been years since them and its only gettingore unaffordable. I’ve had to move every year for the past 4 years to not get out priced. Rent has increased 50% since then too

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      25 months ago

      But the stock market is soaring! Just use your dividends to pay for a house like a rich normal person.

  • AutoTL;DRB
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    25 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the general fertility rate has reached a historic low after decreasing almost every year since 2014.

    The issue is being increasingly discussed by experts and commentators, with X, formerly Twitter, CEO Elon Musk taking to the platform to say that the “collapsing birthrate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far.”

    Polling conducted for Newsweek by Redfield & Wilton Strategies surveying 1,500 eligible U.S. voters on May 1 has found that 42 percent of Americans are “not at all concerned” over falling birthrates.

    Neal Shah, founder and CEO of health-tech startup CareYaya, told Newsweek that the lack of desire to have children is down to a variety of factors, saying “2024 is a tough time to be a young adult.”

    "The uncertainties and stresses heightened by the COVID-19 pandemic could prompt people to reconsider their life goals and family planning choices.

    Other major economies, including Japan, China, South Korea and the United Kingdom, are also recording declines in the number of births each year.


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