• Zagorath
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    Wait, is this just projects stored in your online Adobe cloud account, or are they even stealing your content if you’re just using their desktop software? Because one of these is way, way worse than the other, even if neither is exactly good

    • @[email protected]
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      The new AI features require internet, and they are running on their servers, so it should affect those as well. They have a “generative fill” “neural filters” which adds features to your image, so they definitely needs your full image to generate something.

      In cracked photoshop these tools are not working, obviously. So i guess if you use these cloud tools than you send your images directly to adobe hq.

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        I have a cracked PS install, and the generative fill works just fine for me, and its got all inbound/outbound connections blocked on my firewall.

        • @Opisek
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          The generative fill has been around for way longer than the AI craze.

          • Zagorath
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            57 months ago

            Are you thinking of “content-aware fill”? Generative fill is, as far as I’m aware, much, much newer and uses newer generative AI. Content-aware fill is basically clever automatic clone stamping.

            • @Opisek
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              Oh yeah you’re right!

  • @[email protected]
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    Now that can be an issue for some people (I mean secret contracts and stuff like that). I don’t use an image editor but if I did, I’d use Krita btw

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      207 months ago

      Krita, Inkspace, Gimp. I understand those who use it professionally but not the zealots who dont/barely use it yet demand for it like their life depended on it.

      • Zagorath
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        137 months ago

        If you’re using it professionally, you need your Photoshop to be properly licensed.

        If you’re not using it professionally, there’s no need for proper licenses. And thus you can…acquire Photoshop in a way that doesn’t involve it calling back to Adobe’s systems.

          • @micka190
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            Photoshop does a lot of things in really stupid, convoluted ways. Krita also does a lot of the same things in equally stupid, convoluted ways, but different than PS so you get no benefit from knowing how its done in other software. Text editing comes to mind. Both PS and Krita feel like they were designed by drunk people when it comes to doing anything beyond writing text and picking a font/color/size.

            • @[email protected]
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              47 months ago

              IIRC the Krita people were working on redoing the text tool. Not sure if/when it’s going to be finished, though.

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    When I was young, I pirated Adobe apps because I was poor. That piracy by young artists is a big part of why there is an entire generation that uses apps like Photoshop and Illustrator in the same way they breath. We essentially drank Adobe along with the milk in our bottle.

    As I’ve gotten older and started to make more money I’ve also begun paying for applications, even ones that I’ve pirated in the past (ex. Zbrush). It’s good to support developers.

    This kind of thing though is why I still pirate Adobe products. Subscription models and intrusive DRM are pure poison.

  • @[email protected]
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    Thankfully I don’t do anything that requires me to have Photoshop, but if I did, I’d be explicitly blocking all outbound connections in the firewall.

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        There are plenty of people who need a better editor than GIMP considering how long it’s gone without a major refresh (this isn’t a whinge it’s been over a decade). For anyone that actually cares about their sanity there’s Krita, that actually tries to build a program for professionals.

        Edit: Let alone Krita can actually be used by schools, while GIMP isn’t because of the name.

          • Norah - She/They
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            27 months ago

            Oh thanks for the heads up, I wasn’t aware! I’ll have to check it out when it drops :)

            • @[email protected]
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              No worries :) It’s a big release and is gonna really bring GIMP up to date. I’m super excited about it!

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          Holy shit, will people ever shut up about the name? The truth is that barely anyone actually gives a shit except FOSS zealots trying to come up with excuses for why GIMP wasn’t successful (or those belonging to the anti-GIMP circlejerk that’s surfaced as of late trying to come up with new nonsensical reasons to hate a random piece of FOSS). Outside of the English-speaking world, the amount of people who give a shit about GIMP’s name is precisely zero and the word gimp is almost exclusively associated with the program. Even inside of the English-speaking world, I see GIMP used to refer to the program more often than for anything else. The amount of people actually who actually care about the name is negligible and the amount of brand recognition that would be lost from a rename would significantly outweigh the benefits of possibly having a couple more schools think about maybe starting to use GIMP.

          And the truth is that as far as FOSS GUI programs are concerned, GIMP has been tremendously successful. It’s easily among the most popular, alongside Blender, Firefox and LibreOffice. It is and always has been far more popular than Krita in both professional and non-professional contexts. I’ve seen it installed on the computers of both my secondary school and college, because it turns out school computer labs need image editors and they’re not going to pay for Photoshop licenses.

          But it hasn’t been more successful than Photoshop. And Firefox hasn’t been more successful than Chrome. And LibreOffice hasn’t been more successful than MS Office. And Blender hasn’t been more successful than Maya. And Godot hasn’t been more successful than Unity. And I could go on. Because no single FOSS GUI program has achieved industry standard status. Though Blender has a pretty good shot at making it.

          • Norah - She/They
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            37 months ago

            The only one that seems like a FOSS zealot here is you my friend…hope you learn how to be kinder to folks during conversations.

          • @[email protected]
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            I actually think that it wouldn’t take too many more people using GIMP for the name of the program to be considered the primary meaning of the word in English.

  • Gormadt
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    187 months ago

    Well shit

    It was only a matter of time given current trends

  • @glitchdx
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    krita is pretty good. Not as good as photoshop, but it’s 85% there and doesn’t do bullshit adobe things. There’s an addon for it that brings photoshop like ai tools using stable diffusion, and runs entirely locally.

  • youmaynotknow
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    I can’t bring myself to feel sorry for Adobe users, which unfortunately include my wife. Same goes for any of the other shit services out there. It takes determination and self-control to move away from all that crap, but as a person that sees himself with less self-determination than most, I was able to pull it off, so those that don’t can enjoy their hostage position.

  • @[email protected]
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    117 months ago

    This is why I don’t use Adobe.

    I’m so glad I saw the red flags from earlier and decided to stay far away from anything Adobe.

    Anyways, this is the new business tactic. Start stealing confidential information by somehow forcing a new ToS change or update.

  • @[email protected]
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    87 months ago

    Like… do they just not want money from the main group of digital artists who generate money? It’s literally a meme that the best way to make money as an artist is furry porn

  • @[email protected]
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    57 months ago

    Its ok Adobe, you can admit you want to look at peoples furry porn, we won’t judge you here!

    Hell, you can just ask half of lemmy for some, I’m sure they’d be happy to share.

    • arthurpizza
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      No, but you can disable Adobe Acrobat Document Cloud services.