• @TheGrandNagus
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    6 months ago

    To be clear, the headline refers to yank degrees:

    In outdoor tests in Arizona, the textile stayed […] 16 F (8.9 C) cooler than regular silk, a breathable fabric often used for dresses and shirts.

    They didn’t really compare it to many materials it seems.

    I also don’t know why they said 16+ degrees. That was the largest temperature delta they saw, not the least…

    Besides, this is only part of the tale:

    • Is it affordable?

    • Is it mass manufacturable?

    • Is it comfortable?

    • Is it durable?

    • Is it washable?

    • Is it crease prone?

    • Can it be easily mixed with other materials, e.g. to make it elasticated?

    • Is it recyclable?

    • Is it dyeable?

    • is it fine for sensitive skin?

    • etc

    Sounds cool (heh) though. I’m often too warm.

    • @AbidanYre
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      486 months ago

      yank degrees

      We prefer the term freedom units, thank you.

        • @Zron
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          36 months ago

          I’ll yank your units

      • @Aux
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        06 months ago

        More like wank degrees, lol.

    • @Solemn@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 months ago

      … Silk is used as a cold weather baselayer in active wear? Not sure if it performs differently as an outer layer, but it’s got solid insulating properties for keeping in heat

  • @ZagamTheVile
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    916 months ago

    I admit I didn’t read the article throughly, but surely if it’s impossiblely thin it can’t exist. I only bring this up because I’m an obnoxious pedant.

    • lurch (he/him)
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      126 months ago

      i just read the title and it sounds like it will freeze people to death

    • @werefreeatlast
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      66 months ago

      I would require a wet T shirt contest to really see and compare.

    • @A_Very_Big_Fan
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      56 months ago

      Same. Guess I won’t bother looking into it if it’s impossible 🤷‍♀️

    • @Aux
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      26 months ago

      We can make materials as thin as one atom. It’s just very expensive.

        • @Aux
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          36 months ago

          Yes, you can, but your sheet will be very small. If you want to make a sheet large enough to make a shirt, things get ridiculously expensive.

      • robotica
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        36 months ago

        Yeah but he was being pedantic over the word “impossibly”. If we can make 1 atom thin sheets, then it’s not impossible, right?

    • @invertedspear@lemm.ee
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      146 months ago

      If we can recycle single use plastic into this, then great. Somehow I doubt that’s how it would be made.

      • @masquenox
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        36 months ago

        If we can recycle single use plastic into this, then great.

        They won’t - they’ll just use “Recycling!” as a pretext to continue business as usual… which was the whole point of “Recycling!” in the first place.

      • @asdfasdfasdf
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        16 months ago

        Disagree. Even if we could, from what I understand, large, solid pieces of plastic are better than extremely small, thin, fragile pieces since those are going to turn into microplastics and get everywhere. I’d rather have them in one big chunk.

  • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    236 months ago

    On top of that, as we experience higher temperatures, many people also crank up their air conditioners—which emit more heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

    This is not correct. Air conditioning units do not ‘emit more […] greenhouse gases’. Air conditioners use a refrigerant–usually R134a–which does have a high global warming potential (GWP) compared to methane or CO2, but that refrigerant is in a closed loop; it’s not going anywhere unless the system is damaged. Most a/c failures aren’t from refrigerant leaking out of the system, and the system no longer being able to effectively transfer heat, but from the compressor motor failing. When the compressor fails, in most cases you can evacuate the refrigerant, replace the broken part, and then recharge the system. (The fact that they can be repaired doesn’t mean that they usually are repaired. Which is shitty.)

    What is true is that a/c units emit heat themselves. An air conditioner moves heat from inside a space to outside of that space; in the process of doing so, the a/c unit itself is creating an additional small amount of heat from the function of the compressor motor, electronics, etc.

    Beyond that, most electricity that’s used to run a/c systems–and every other electrical device–is produced from burning fossil fuels. So if there’s more demand for electricity–such as from a heat dome that has everyone running their a/c full-time–then yes, more CO2 is going to get pumped out into the atmosphere. But if your electricity is coming from sources that are largely emissions-free, like solar, wind, or hydro, then air conditioning is a negligible source of heat.

    tl;dr - don’t feel bad about using your a/c when heat rises to dangerous levels; agitate at a local, state, and national level for renewable, carbon-neutral ways of generating electricity, and for more efficient use of electricity.

    • @crawancon@lemm.ee
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      76 months ago

      Thank you.

      I don’t think we should feel bad for housing AC. it was created by us to feel comfortable. Just because companies and bitcoin miners and ultron-ass skynet-ass LLM/ML-ass trainers are using stupid amounts of resource doesn’t mean the population is the cause. it’s the greedy few.

      • @HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        I agree with all of this. At the same time, I think that, in most cases, people should allow their body to adapt to heat, if they are healthy enough to do so. Most people can learn to be comfortable in higher heat than they believe, although some people have medical conditions that will make them more susceptible to heat exhaustion and heat stroke. If you can get by without it, you should. If you’re at risk by not using it, don’t feel guilty.

        (FWIW, my office only has a/c because I have a very, very large printer in here, and it tends to have head strikes and scrap prints out if there’s no climate control. But since I’m not printing at the moment, the current temp in here is 82F.)

      • @blazera
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        246 months ago

        Green space was overwhelmingly removed for car space

          • @iopq
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            16 months ago

            Which would be great, because it would give people with high incomes places to live, lowering the competition for housing and the rents at the top end. Those people would spend and contribute to the local economy, since they have the money to spend.

            This would be a huge win for everyone, as building more housing often is.

    • Prison Mike
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      276 months ago

      I mean, I get it that Fahrenheit is stupid, but this is an American publication.

      • @Malfeasant
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        106 months ago

        Fahrenheit is fine for temperatures that humans can experience in our environment (and expect to survive, at least for a little while…)

        • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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          66 months ago

          I am mostly weirded out by the position of the zero. In Celsuis, zero is in the point that very visibly impacts the world. In Farenheit? Random winter temperature.

        • Prison Mike
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          26 months ago

          I guess. But having friends from all over the planet, it becomes a pain running conversions just to have a conversation.

          • Jojo, Lady of the West
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            16 months ago

            I mean if you need to be using precise temperature units just to have a conversation… Maybe find less particular friends?

            • Prison Mike
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              26 months ago

              Friend: Hey, what’s the temperature? Me: Like 74°F Friend: I don’t understand… Me: Sucks to be you! You require precise temperature units and I follow advice from randos on the internet. See ya! 👋🥴

              • Jojo, Lady of the West
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                16 months ago

                Or, just, like,

                “Pretty warm but I’m not complaining, you?”

                You’re the one that brought units into it in your example. Maybe you’re the bad friend?

                • Prison Mike
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                  06 months ago

                  You want it to be true so bad. What if I’m not discussing the current location? What if I’m explaining where I’m from? We’re both in a mild, Mediterranean climate and I’m saying “oh it’s freezing back home” wtf does this mean? Are you suggesting we do away with measuring temperature at all?

                  I only brought “precise temperature units” into my example because you brought it up. 😒

      • Drusas
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        Fahrenheit is superior to Celsius because it’s more specific and I will die on this hill. 71F feels different than 72F and yet they’re both 22C (for example).

        Metric is better than imperial, though. Obviously.

          • Drusas
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            16 months ago

            Tenths of a degree are more noticeable in Fahrenheit than in Celsius for the same reason.

            • @iopq
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              26 months ago

              But you’re using more digits, like if you’re writing 104.2 that’s 4 digits and still not as accurate as using four digits in Celsius like 41.12

              • Drusas
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                16 months ago

                Sure, but I never see people use two decimal points in real life when using Celsius to describe weather.

                • @iopq
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                  16 months ago

                  Nobody uses decimal points in Fahrenheit, but it’s common using Celsius

                  The only time I’ve seen Fahrenheit with decimal points is the saying that the normal body temperature is 98.7F

                  Which is actually wrong, this is 37C, already a mild fever

                  98.0F/36.6C is actually the normal body temperature

        • @Aux
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          86 months ago

          The beauty of the metric system is that you can subdivide it infinitely to achieve any precision you wish. For example, you can have +22°, or +22.1°, or 22.15°, or 22.157°, etc.

  • Mbourgon everywhere
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    46 months ago

    What are examples of “broadband emitter “ fabrics that I can buy? The only links I can find are for this article.