cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/16595505
- Home routing and encryption technologies are making lawful interception harder for Europol
- PET-enabled home routing allows for secure communication, hindering law enforcement’s ability to intercept and monitor communications
- Europol suggests solutions such as disabling PET technologies and implementing cross-border interception standards to address the issue.
“The issue” that needs addressing is the obsession our governments have with spying on us.
What confuses me is that we, the people, have the upper hand according to democracy. So no classified information should exist within the people for democracy to function propperly.
Except that their are so many people that have no idea how the internet or such technologies work. And happily hand over their private lives cause “nothing to hide” BS.
Also brainwashing. People get their ideas from other people. Some through books, some through those they call experts but we‘re very easily influenced. Getting blasted with biased shows and commercials that show us how „fair“ law enforcement is makes people easy targets for pushing dangerous laws.
Whoa, take it easy there. You wouldn’t want to awaken John Lock
I really didnt think much when I sent this. I should remember next time so that I don’t become the next target of the NSA
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“lawful interception” is a fallacy.
If it’s written in the law, it’s lawful. You can of course (and should!) debate about the morality of the diverse forms of lawful interception, but a blanket statement like ‘“lawful interception” is a fallacy’, is a fallacy in of itself.
What is more terrifying is when a elected leader argues against mass surveillance and then is shunned by the intelligence agency and their allies
Laws do not, did not ever, guarantee interception. It always allowed the police to try to intercept. The police hid bugs, tapped wires. Never in history the police said "for lawful interception to happen, all phones must come with preinstalled wiretap. The implication that “communications systems are too secure, there has to be a backdoor for lawful interception” is a fallacy.
The fallacy is imagining that “lawfulness” is an attribute that can be reliably detected on an implementation level.
as a neteng for 20+ years, what the hell is “home routing”
its routing without the Pro license.
does it come with bgp though
It’s basically when you drag an Ethernet cable behind you wherever you go, with the other end still plugged into your home switch.
So that’s what those massive 1000 foot Ethernet cables are for!
My understanding after reading the article is: while roaming your phone sets up a VPN type thing with your phone provider, and routes calls and data through this tunnel, so now Europol has to deal with another country if they want to track you.
I am in dire need of such solution just because I moved with Europe but don’t want to let go my old number, fortunately I visit one 6 months but what if I pass the deadline?
Besides Google won’t let me use my Balance unless I have that specific counties card in phone and it’s active… If you know how to do it let me know.
It’s a process of telling houses where to go. Why do you think homes never get lost?
Home routing is when you connect a cable to your PC and the wall. Your home then uses that connection to join the Dark Web, and you allow hackers to stay at your home temporarily to escape the government. Those hackers jump from house to house, evading the authorities.
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😂. "Oh you wanna go to the internet? Sure, let me NAT and route you to my gateway. "
Oh, so, keep doing it? Even harder? Gotcha.
Good.
Endemic end-to-end encryption just means that everyone is now protected from interception.
I’ve been using PGP and friends since the 90s. Most people who LE should be targeting for investigation have likewise been using strong encryption since the 90s.
Most cases get a break due to the failure of opsec or due to chance or standard gruelling detective work and the fact that people are social animals.
So what exactly is Europol arguing here?
They probably want to bust people in bulk
PET-enabled home routing
Oh, apparently it’s a “5G” thing. Perhaps everyone in Europe knows that already. Apparently the design of the new network is complicated enough that they’ve accidentally left room for just a little bit of user privacy. Europol claims to have become dependent on the situation where people using mobile phones have none at all.
I wonder if the reason the headline has to specify “lawful” has anything to do with it 🤔
We’re back to “privacy is a good thing even if it enables ‘criminals’”? Yesterday there was rather a lot of negativity towards GNU Taler and other means of transferring money privately because it enabled tax evasion and such.
That’s the point. They totally missed the main idea here
I get that that’s bad and that shouldn’t be.
But there just have been too many cases of unlawful interception (NSA and Criminal). So I personally don’t think we should move back away from encryption
