• originalucifer
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    694 months ago

    move by russia invading sovereign nation is a dangerous escalation they maybe should have thought out first

    • @halcyoncmdr
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      Exactly, what are they going to do that’s new? Take more territory? They would have already if they could. Target civilians? They’re already doing that. Use banned weapons? They’re already using various chemical agents and white phosphorous, so nothing new there.

      The only real escalation they have left is nuclear, and that would 100% result in countries retaliating with their own, ending us all. Besides, then they’re still just left with more irradiated land than they already have, there’s no benefit.

      Are they trying to claim they’d be capable of maintaining a war with multiple fronts if other countries openly join in retaliation? Because if they had more military in reserve, they’d surely be sending it to Ukraine to end this “2 week conflict” as quickly as possible.

  • @andallthat
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    464 months ago
    • Manipulating political elections worldwide to favour far-right pro-Russia candidates was an escalation

    • Weaponizing immigration to Europe to give an anti-immigrant platform to the above far-right was an escalation

    • The irony of trying to purportedly “de-nazify” Ukraine while literally nazifying the rest of the world is just the icing on the shit escalation cake

  • @[email protected]
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    274 months ago

    You know what I would consider a dangerous escalation? Bombing a children’s hospital you fucking sick fucks. We need to lift these restrictions on Ukraine immediately.

      • RubberDuck
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        64 months ago

        Putting him and davel on your Blocklist should be in the Lemmy onboarding message. But maybe just all of lemmy.ml actually.

        • @[email protected]
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          64 months ago

          Lemmy.ml should be defederated from any self respecting instance. It won’t stop the propaganda but it will help.

          I already use Lemmy less because of the constant propaganda, and don’t even admit I use it, let alone recommend it to people.

  • @[email protected]
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    254 months ago

    Invading a neighboring country is a dangerous escalation, and yet here we are.

    Fuck off, Vovochka.

  • @Shotgun_Alice
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    164 months ago

    Says the country currently striking into another sovereign county’s borders. Talk sh*t get hit.

    • dactylotheca
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      Yeah they’ve been saying this every time someone helps Ukraine. First small arms were a “dangerous escalation”, then heavier weapons, then tanks, then fighters, etc. etc. Funny how they don’t consider eg. threatening nuclear war every second day or sabotage operations in Europe a “dangerous escalation”.

      I’m starting to feel like nuclear war would probably be preferable to a planet with Russia in it (the fact that I live in a country bordering them doesn’t help)

  • @[email protected]
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    144 months ago

    “Allowing the guy I’m beating up to kick me in the nuts is a dangerous escalation”

    Ok.

  • @[email protected]
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    114 months ago

    How is it that the world is so deeply insane?

    Surely I’m not the only one who sees it, right?

    I mean - as just one example, we have here a country that launched a military invasion of another country, and is now trying to characterize attempts by that country to defend itself as “escalation.”

    The only possible “logic” behind that is that the Russian position is that the only acceptable thing for Ukraine to do is to meekly submit to Russian rule, and that anything else is such an affront that it justifies even more violence and murder.

    That’s stark, raving, bug-eyed insane. And it’s not some derelict on a street corner spouting that insanity - it’s s nation. And it’s not the only national level insanity happening - hell - it’s not even the only national level insanity happening today. Even as I type this, it’s guaranteed that some country or some national level politician somewhere, and probably more than one, is doing or saying something at least as mind-boggling insane as that, and it just keeps going, moment-to-moment, day-to-day.

    How does that even work? Seriously - is it some sort of conspiracy of silence or something? Some (potentially unspoken) agreement around the world that yeah, we know that these people are stark staring mad, but let’s just pretend that the shit they spew has some merit, mmkay?

    Or is it that the rest of the world is so insane that they don’t even notice? (Or, it suddenly struck me, so drunk that they don’t?)

    I just don’t get it. It’s not even just countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are a bit questionable, but countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are screechingly insane - that don’t even bear a passing resemblance to logic, reason, truth or reality. Day in and day out, and without even a whisper about how patently insane it all is.

    I don’t understand how that’s even possible.

    • lurch (he/him)
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      some other countries try to stay diplomatic so talks are still possible when russia is ready to surrender. they have professional politicians who hold back instead of lashing out, even if they want to.

      also, many countries didn’t expect war and were low on war supplies. then many of them are also giving their supplies to Ukraine and have even less, but can probably still defend against russia or others, but it’s more risky. in that situation they ask that their weapons aren’t fired into russian territorry for two reasons: (1) so russia has less reason to attack them in their slightly weakened state and (b) so russia can’t find parts of their weapons and develop countermeasures or copy their tech.

      russia knows this, of course and they are losing the war. it’s just the question how many years it will take. so because of reason 1 they try to threaten the Ukraine supplier countries to stop them sending weapons. And those countries know it’s outrageous how russia behaves, but their politiciancs act cool and won’t call out the insanity, so negotiations for russias surrender will be possible as soon as possibble.

  • @someguy3
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    84 months ago

    Afaik they only allowed Ukraine to do that when Russia started “I can hit you but you can’t hit back because I’m in Russia” tactics. Afaik Ukraine can only strike Russia under certain strict conditions.

    • @[email protected]
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      114 months ago

      Afaik Ukraine can only strike Russia under certain strict conditions.

      With western provided weapons. They have been performing deep strike with home grown drone/cruise missile systems. They are getting better fast.

      • RubberDuck
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        24 months ago

        Yeah, in a year they will have their own home grown capability. Untill then the current generation of drones is performing adequate. Once they integrate hard and software that allow the drone to finish the mission on its own in the terminal phase, it will be even more painful.

        Cracking towers are good stand out targets.

  • @Etterra
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    34 months ago

    Rattle at saber all you want Putin.

  • @[email protected]
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    34 months ago

    I didn’t realize burying the lede was something you could do in a headline, but here’s an example of it.