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I recall posting warnings about federation with Meta, was ignored.
I feel like history repeats yet again. How many times have people called for not trusting big corporations, just for people saying “give them a chance!”, and then to regret it later?
I can still block the whole domain whenever I want.
Real talk, can anyone explain to me why exactly Meta/FB pander to the right this hard? Are the ad dollars/engagement that good?
Peter Thiel I assume.
Ding ding ding.
He was one of Facebooks first investors.
Also a good friend of Elon. The dude who proclaimed “Fuck Zuck!” as he bought Twitter.
Thiel got his fortune from PayPal. Along with Musk.
Who knew 20 years ago that the nerds who made bank on the dotcom bubble would grow up to be the evil cabal taking over the world?
They were never the nerds though. They were never the ones actually implementing anything, Zuckerberg is probably the most talented out of all of them, they were always just the ones swinging the cash around.
And Zuck used php, literally the worst language known to mankind. It is because of Facebook that php hasn’t died the death we were promised.
PHP was reborn in the 7th version, and it still works very well.
And it’s Wordpress’ fault, too.
If I ever gain access to a time machine I’m not doing shit to Hitler but I will go back in time and wipe out whoever developed bloody WordPress.
You can sell more to people out of fear than people just going about their day/night. The Right is all about selling fear (immigrants/liberals/pedophiles/space lasers/etc.) and then ask for “donations” to help the same folks making this shit up to help line their pockets and looked down on these people as less than. Trump is currently the Rights king, and there isn’t a group he has more distain and disgust for than his own base.
psychos tend to be more successful due to their lack of empathy
It’s easier to be successful if you don’t care about trampling over people
Less regulation means more exploitation
Capitalism in decay results in the bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie collaborating, in an effort to oppress the out group and forcibly “turn the clock back.” It’s fascism playing out yet again.
Why do far right weirdos always have pinched, squashed little faces??
Fetal alcohol syndrome
Oversized vibrating anal beads.
He definitely looks like a Dustin doesn’t he? He definitely looks like the sort of person that would have a podcast and as a result of that podcast is currently been sued by 40 different people.
That guy even looks like a right-wing chud. I bet he’s got some runes tattooed somewhere on his person.
“halfdan was here”, right above the bum
Serious question…why isn’t the DOJ stepping in and stopping any of this? The FBI? Anyone?
What makes you think decision makers in the DOJ or FBI are against project 2025?
Idk. Hopeium mostly.
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/lobbyists?cycle=2021&id=D000033563
There’s a big revolving door between DC lobbyists and DOJ Regulators, too, so…
I wish I was stupid enough to not have to worry about any of this shit. Agent Smith I want back into the matrix please.
Why would they? They aren’t against it.
Oh look… the capitalists liberals have been bending over backwards for so many decades is happily marching in lock-step with fascists - again.
If only someone could have predicted this!
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I’m ever-vindicated that I never got a Facebook.
He’ll probably be trying to implement a lot of his own technologies using Orb Maths or Circle Theorems
With billions of dollars potentially at stake and Trump currently at 60% to win the election, I’d be trying to get on these guys’ good side too.
Zuck has had staunch republican assets on the board and at the highest levels of the company for ages. They’ve boosted fascist content and pushed outright lies on behalf of trump for almost 10 years now.
FB doesn’t need to get on the good side of the far right, they’re already on the same side.
They have to make up for suspending Trump’s account for two years.
60% of what? No poll puts him at that level.
You the guy who thinks betting websites decide elections?
Betting odds are like, the most accurate way to determine outcome? Even for sports.
If polls were accurate, anyone with a bit of risk tolerance could make bank betting against Trump. But people doing stats in swing states, campaign finances, etc seem to be in alignment (again, if they weren’t in alignment, there would be money to be made)
From my reading, these betting markets have recently tracked as well as 538 long term, so that’s a decent outcome. I wonder if they just swing to vendors like 538 to look for “an inside track” to bet against overall, but it’s a small system so it’s not clear.
The issues they have are being largely illegal or grey market in the US, which limits who will interact with them. There very well could be experts who could “make money” that won’t do so because of their current status.
They also appear to be very erratic in the short term, the same way a lot of sports betting and stock gambling is. Single events can send the numbers into tailspins. We’ve had some pretty intense recent events, so I’m not exactly confident in their choices.
I’d say lastly that they are heavily right wing or right wing adjacent spaces. Some people are just there to make money, but others are tossing it away on ideology, especially in these divisive times. Markets aren’t always rational actors, they just tend to be in aggregate.
I do trust people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is more than I trust people who aren’t.
So yes, you think gamblers decide elections.
I think I asked you this last time you brought this up and you didn’t reply. What were Biden’s odds of winning in 2020 on these same websites at 3 months out?
Obviously gamblers don’t decide elections but they do a pretty good job predicting election outcomes.
I don’t think I’m the same guy you had that discussion with (or if I am, I have no memory of it). Anyway, Polymarket (which I trust more) appears to have no history for resolved markets (as far as I can tell) and PredictIt (which is currently more optimistic about Harris than Polymarket) only shows 9/20/20 at the earliest (at which time it was Biden 57, Trump 46, Harris 4). I’m not sure what you’re getting at with this question.
Note: Yes, PredictIt didn’t add up to 100%. In theory that means you could have made money off of it risk-free but in practice it has a lot of overhead which prevents it from being an efficient market.
Okay, so you think gamblers are good at predicting elections?
Why do you think this when you can’t find data to back up their predictions? What kind of “prediction market” doesn’t keep data on past predictions? Seems like an easy way to hide failure to me.
Well, this guy does keep track and the record looks pretty good. The average of several different prediction markets on 8/5/20 had odds of Biden 59.1 Trump 37.8.
Interesting. Good to see data enter the conversation finally. It looks like on average, betting markets are about as good as Nate silver.
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at 60% to win the election
LOL what? There is barely any polling out on Harris v. Trump, and the one’s that have circulated are a dead heat at +/-2 in either direction. I’m personally waiting on Nate Silver’s first real forecast tomorrow.
His odds are about the same as Polymarket’s.
(Sorry Nate, I know this is paywalled but winning an argument is more important than your livelihood.)
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Ok, then who do you propose is better at predicting election results?
Nobody is good at it. They shouldnt be used to predict who will win.
How’s that looking now?
I think the original predictions were accurate given the information available at the time, but Harris has been unexpectedly successful. I am pleasant surprised.
Hey fair enough. That’s pretty shocking. Looks like I’m throwing some money down on this one. I think these odds are insane, and I’ll gladly take them.
Edit: So far that money is looking well spent. As expected, the odds have completely flipped.
better get licking on those boots
