• @PugJesusOPM
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    Explanation: The ancient Romans used the xylospongium or tersorium for wiping purposes - a sea sponge on a stick. How lovely! In public restrooms, they would have been shared, which is probably not all that hygienic regardless of the fact that they rinsed the sponge after each use, or let it soak in vinegar or salt water when idle. Still, civilization! What marvels, right?

    • @MrJameGumb
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      33 months ago

      I have to wonder if this means that all the ancient Romans kind of smelled a little poopy all the time

      • @PugJesusOPM
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        Well, the sponge itself would be rinsed of fecal matter in running water, and the salt water/vinegar soak would have taken care of the rest. Smell (at least, the smell of the wiped Romans) wouldn’t have been a problem - transmission of parasite eggs from fecal matter, on the other hand? Probably a non-negligible issue.

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            Pre-germ-theory food handling and water source management always took a toll, so I’m guessing poo sponges were a relatively small part of the problem. Especially if the vinegar soak actually worked at all.

            He also reviewed studies analyzing Rome’s ectoparasites — that is, parasites found on the outside of the body, such as fleas, lice and bedbugs — in textiles and combs.

            Surprisingly, ectoparasites were just as common in the Roman Empire, where people regularly bathed, as they were in Viking and medieval populations — groups of people who didn’t bathe frequently, Mitchell found.

            Now that is surprising. How hard is it to just delouse your shit before you put it back on?

            • @PugJesusOPM
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              23 months ago

              Surprisingly hard. Delousing was a major endeavor all the way up into the 20th century. The little bastards are hard to completely eradicate.

              • @[email protected]
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                23 months ago

                I did some searching, but turned up kind of empty. Do you have something you could link on this?

                • @PugJesusOPM
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                  13 months ago

                  Sure thing! This is about WW1 in particular, but it gives an idea of how hard the little bastards are to fight.

                  https://spartacus-educational.com/FWWlice.htm

                  Where possible the army arranged for the men to have baths in huge vats of hot water while their clothes were being put through delousing machines. Unfortunately, this rarely worked. A fair proportion of the eggs remained in the clothes and within two or three hours of the clothes being put on again a man’s body heat had hatched them out.

      • @[email protected]
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        23 months ago

        It probably cleaned better than thin, dry paper. If it wasn’t for the communal aspect this would actually be a decent solution to the problem.

    • @Dkarma
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      23 months ago

      There no way the sticks were straight tho right? I mean. That’s a horrible angle…

  • @[email protected]
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    -23 months ago

    Quick google-search and the wiki of my country (Germany) gives a detailed explanation how the assumption this thing was to clean your anus is wrong.

    You can do better. ;)

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      The idea of the xylospongium as a toilet brush is not at all the mainstream position despite Wiplinger’s claims to the contrary.