• @[email protected]
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    1824 days ago

    Maybe it’s because climate scientists have been underestimating effects for decades so they didn’t lose grants for looking alarmist.

    • @[email protected]
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      1224 days ago

      Have they?

      “In this case, their very specific prediction was that warming of between 1.5°C and 4.5°C would accompany a doubling of atmospheric CO₂” https://theconversation.com/40-years-ago-scientists-predicted-climate-change-and-hey-they-were-right-120502

      Isn’t the problem more that people have been reading that and assuming that it means 3°, not ‘possibly 4.5°’ ?

      That said, the study there seems to assume that the effects are roughly linear, ie. that there are no tipping points.

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        423 days ago

        I don’t want to go into specific predictions because there are too many. But generally, scientists are very conservative with their predictions, because they don’t want to lose grants. It’s safe to hide behind numbers and give low estimates.

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          923 days ago

          I hear what you’re saying, but I think the real problem is the policy makers, who are without doubt choosing to use the least scary predictions, and pushing even those targets back when they fail to achieve them.

    • Hannes
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      424 days ago

      That’s the thing - if science is projecting something for the future nothing is 100% certain - so they have to widen the range in order to have a statement with a lower number that’s “90% certain” even if there’s a very high chance that it’s going to be way worse

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        523 days ago

        Absolutely, but if you ask climate scientists, in private, what they think the numbers are saying, they will tell you a very different story.

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          623 days ago

          I would guess we’ve been fucked for at least a couple of decades by now. In their need to “reach a consensus” we have been sold an unrealistic narrative of hope lol

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            323 days ago

            Yes, well phrased. All though I think there was hope. There is always hope, but none of the deciders care or have cared.