• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    Really? Because over here in this western democracy, we’ve got employment contracts and renter protections that make the first two impossible.

    I also find it hilarious to place a Facebook ban on the same level as unemployed homelessness.

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        7 months ago

        Not every western democracy is the united states.

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          7 months ago

          Can I not talk about where I am? It’s a problem my state is facing.

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            7 months ago

            You can. The whole post itself was about the US. You just replied to someone who was talking about another country with “at will” like it invalidated their experience.

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              7 months ago

              “this” isn’t very specific…

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                7 months ago

                Nope. It’s just specifically not the US.

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                  7 months ago

                  US has employment contracts and renter protections.

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      Renter protections in the UK are worth fuck all. You might have a 12 month contract, but if the landlord wants you gone they just choose not to renew.

      You either suck the landlords dick or start looking for a new landlords dick to suck.

      Anyone that thinks otherwise has clearly never been a tennant, the balance of power is almost completely one sided.

      • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        Renter protection in the Netherlands is pretty great. Once a rental contract is renewed, it automatically becomes a contract with no fixed term. If your landlord wants you out after that 1 chance, they’ll have to get a judge to approve it.

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    7 months ago

    thats american democracy. the rest of the western world is far less dystopian

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          7 months ago

          Ukraine, Romania, and Poland have good workers rights?

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            Not sure about the rest, but Romania does. Communism fucked us up in many ways, but a positive legacy is how enshrined unions are in law.

            Companies can get legislated to oblivion if it turns out they tried to suppress a union. We have “codul muncii” (the labour code EDIT: Found a decent English translation if anyone’s interested) which is a surprisingly readable government legal document that goes through exactly what rights you have and what obligations the company has towards you, as well as what legal incantations you need to do in which situations.

            We have problems that spring up when both the workers and the company don’t know how this works. Workers being taken advantage of, unaware how much power they have, and companies not realising it only takes one person to report them before very bad things start happening to them.

            We also have 18 days national holiday, minimum 21 days PTO per year (2 weeks of this per year must be consecutive and the company gets punished if it isn’t). Maternity leave is 126 days at 85% of your income (42 of it mandatory). These rules are fairly middle of the pack in Europe, nothing exceptional except the huge number of national holidays.

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            Poland has pretty great laws if you have a contract. There is also a business2business relationship which a lot of people go for, where you aren’t as protected but get to keep more money out of it.

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    This is just as dumb as GOPers bitching about cancel culture.

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    7 months ago

    Daily reminder that not every state has the same work/renters protections

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    Is there some other location/system that is different?

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      The UK used to have plentiful stock of social housing. Great building quality with affordable rents. This was the standard way people would attain their accommodation.

      Unfortunately the government chose to sell it off in the 80’s and failed to replenish the supply in line with the growing population, causing the next generation a need to rely upon parasitic landlords.