Is it Karl Marx or is it Ron Swanson’s alter ego, Nick Offerman?
Yes.
Yes it cannot be saved because by nature it’s contradictory and exploitative, all of the problems are caused by capitalism because without those problems people would be able to question for another system.
Didn’t Marx propose a synthesis of the two classes, thus eliminating the ruling class?
I feel like Engles being his homie, Marx didn’t hate the rich, he was just critical of the economic system.
Rather improved, if we destory it, where do we go back to? You can’t move forward with removing the ground you stand on
Not sure what you are saying exactly. Are you advocating for a slow move rather than an instant systematic teardown or are you advocating we stop somewhere in the middle for a hybrid model?
Slow move it is.
That’s a very evolutionist stand, which is proved to do more harm than good to society. There are economic options out of capitalism and communism, for that matter.
If you think that capitalism is going forward or a valid place to start something from, it surprises me that you’re even in this community, since even Marx himself abandoned the idea that capitalism was the necessary (although wrong) path to get to socialism.
The progression of humanity was from hunter-gatherer to larger tribes to city-states to eventual feudalism by the late Antiquity all the way up until around 1600. We’ve not even had any kind of pure capitalism since then, only some hybrids of capital and socialism.
First, what do you mean by “pure capitalism”?
Second, the fact that some “socialism” is mixed into the capitalism is the only reason it hasn’t failed sooner.
We see the results of Communism in the USSR and North Korea. Nobody wants that hell.
We see the results of Capitalism in basically every country right now. If I remember correctly the US government found that the government couldn’t hold companies responsible for literal child slavery.
You come from a place of complete privilege where you believe equality is oppression.
Ah yes, the equality of bashing in the legs of the talented ballet dancers so the un-talented ones can be equal.
That’s the result of authoritarianism. Not communism.
Communism is inherently authoritarian. Essentially the voluntarism aspect on scales on the level of something like Israeli Kibbutzim. As soon as you go larger than that, you need the boot-heel of the state to enforce it.
There’s More than one kind of communism. Yes state Bolshevik communism is inexorably tied to authoritarianism. But the fact that you can’t imagine a communism that isn’t. Isn’t a problem or failing a communism. It’s a problem or failing of your understanding /education. So I am quite interested for you to explain it to me how small c communist style communes etc such as hippie communes Bohemian communes are inherently authoritarian. Good luck!
