• @Carrolade
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      132 months ago

      Regardless of his intentions, it’s very aggravating how many of his clearly combative comments stay up despite “no trolling” being in rule 4.

      I frankly do not understand why we have the rule if it is never going to be enforced. Is there question among our mod team about what constitutes trolling?

      Looking through the modlog though, the only rule 4 enforcement seems to be low-effort stuff. High-effort trolling appears to be completely welcome in this community, which I just do not understand. But I’m contemplating beginning to take advantage of it. I can piss people off with subtle, passive-aggressive personal digs and logical fallacies while maintaining a veneer of civility too. It’s been a lot of years, but I’m sure it’ll come right back to me.

      • @[email protected]
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        The only thing that really bothers me is that they put zero effort into rationally justifying their opinions. “Muh, my opinion, no matter how irrational and unfounded, is just as valid as yours!”. That kind of dishonest deflection is trolling but I abhor dragging mods into it unless it is necessary. I can deal with trolling.

        • @Carrolade
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          62 months ago

          Yeah, that’s an evolution from his earlier style. Note that he often subtly flips it to something personal though. Just pay attention to how often he talks about “you” and “them”. He seldom addresses facts or arguments, instead he addresses people. Individuals and groups.

          What frustrates me is there is enough trolling on social media already, we should not be condoning it by simply allowing it here, in what is usually a more mature Lemmy space. We don’t need more internet-ey behavior on the internet, there’s already plenty everywhere.

        • @blazera
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          -42 months ago

          Look at this trying to apply speech impediments to attack OP.

    • @blazera
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      02 months ago

      I cant believe OP is supporting a different party because he doesnt like yours. What a troll

    • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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      OP has shown their intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights.

      Yep, thanks to you, I guess maybe Harris has just lost another vote.

      I was on the fence because of all the thoughtful courteous replies I was getting, but now…

      Guess ya should have been nicer. Oh well. :)

      • @MajinBlayze
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        Lol, there’s no way in hell your decision on how to vote was ever going to be swayed by the civility of Lemmy comments

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          Lol, there’s no way in hell your decision on how to vote was ever going to be swayed by the civility of Lemmy comments

          But that’s what @[email protected] is implying: https://lemmy.world/comment/12396020

          He said my “intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights,” then posted a link to my conversation with him where I said democrats should be nicer and not such jerks to people who don’t agree with them. Then as a result of that comment, he revealed that as his big "gotcha!’ and quoted it as saying he found the real me.

          Are you saying he’s wrong?!

          Others have implied that I’m not even American, that I can’t even vote, and that I am doing Russia’s bidding. Are they wrong too?!

          So is it actually possible that I am not voting for democrats because of my personal ideology after all?!

          Hmmmm…

          • @[email protected]
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            22 months ago

            Knock it off with the straw mans. YOU obviously won’t change your mind, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t trying to convince others… out of a desire for revenge.

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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              YOU obviously won’t change your mind,

              But wait, you made this big show and dance about how I MUST be doing this out of revenge, and you quoted our conversation? https://lemmy.world/comment/12396020

              So I’m confused. What revenge are we talking about? Because maybe you know something I don’t?

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                  Your exact words were “OP has shown their intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights.” and you linked to our conversation.

                  What “perceived slights” are you talking about?

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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          I encourage you to vote for whomever you see fit.

          Thank you! I’m voting for the candidate who best aligns with my values. I respect your choice to support whoever you believe in, and I encourage you to do the same!

          • @[email protected]
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            Oh I will! I will be voting for Harris, a candidate that can actually win. I’m excited about it! 😊

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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              Good for you. I’m not voting for her, but I support your right to vote for her! :)

    • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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      Yes. But I didn’t write the headline. I think it’s a misleading headline, but we aren’t allowed to change when we post.

      So if mods decide to delete article due to the editorial choice that the news org made, I am fine with that decision.

      • @ccunning
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        I think it’s a misleading headline, but we aren’t allowed to change when we post.

        Incorrect.

        Rule 1 from the sidebar(emphasis, mine):

        Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive

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        I never thought I’d be quoting the rules to you, but…

        Rules: 1. Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive.

        My reading of this is that it’s optional to add additional context or to be more descriptive so this post should be okay. But you have the option to update the title for those purposes.

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOP
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          But you have the option to update the title for those purposes.

          I personally think that changing the title of a posted article is a slippery slope when it comes to the mod rules. So I never change titles of the articles.

          I just cut and paste as they are.

          • abff08f4813c
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            Makes sense, and fine by me. You’re just performing a commendable effort in keeping yourself extra strict when it comes to following the mod rules.

  • @just_another_person
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    It really doesn’t.

    People can think it’s awful at the same time they can’t do anything about it because IT’S NOT WITHIN US CONTROL.

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      We could stop sending them weapons. Then we could stop sending them financial aid. Then we could sanction them. Its pretty entirely in US control, Israels existence always has been

      • @just_another_person
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        Yup. That’s exactly how national alliances are made. This ideal worked so fucking well after WWII, Korea, Vietname, Iraq 1 & 2, Afghanistan.

        Holy shit, we have an amazing strategist on our hands here! Let’s get this person to the negotiation table ASAP!!!

        • @blazera
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          Theyre committing genocide, any support is endorsement

          • @just_another_person
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            Okay, right. So anyone selling ammunition to a country of any type, cool.

            Turns out that all countries do this, so you’re just mad at the world.

            • @blazera
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              A country using that ammunition to commit genocide??

              • @just_another_person
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                Yeah, like any other Middle East conflict? Russia, China, Brazil, Peru, and most of the continental African countries all make and sell munitions to Israel.

                What exactly is your point?

                • @blazera
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                  …all of that just reinforces my disdain for arming a genocidal country? Did you think I was gonna go “oh well if China and Russia are doing it must be good”

                  But even whatever point you’re trying to make bringing them up wouldnt hold up anyway because compared to the US they do not provide a fraction of the financial and military support the US does.

                  Actually, trying to look up the relevant figures, your claim is an outright lie, none of those countries are even on the list of arms supplies to Israel https://www.reuters.com/world/who-are-israels-main-weapons-suppliers-who-has-halted-exports-2024-05-09/