Hello,

Bought a spare super cheap used 3TB drive a year ago, and just figured out it’s not a SATA but a SAS drive.

How fucked am I? What can I do more than using it as a paperweight?

Cheers!

    • @lemming741
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      55 hours ago

      I’ve gotten 3 drives from serverpartdeals, an 18 and a pair of 22s. They were $220, about half price.

    • @ValmondOP
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      77 hours ago

      I don’t know where you live but I got the drive for 30€ including shipping, a new drive is over 100€…

      • @Maalus
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        27 hours ago

        And then two years down the line you lose all the data - the pictures, the savegames, the porn collection. Drives are the one thing that shouldn’t be bought used

        • @[email protected]
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          22 hours ago

          I salvaged an 18 year old WD hard disk from a pentium IV system.

          It works to this day in my retro gaming machine lol

        • @[email protected]
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          66 hours ago

          Not if you have a proper backup plan.

          I have about 200ish TB or about 24 drives and 3 of them failed all are used. I have a solid backup plan so no issues with failing drives. Saves me roughly 100-200 a drive.

          New drives have infant mortality as well. An inverse bell curve would be the distribution.

        • @ValmondOP
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          36 hours ago

          I learned the hard way when the cheap PSU blew up and took with it the mobo, my drive and my backup drive. That was the year 2000 or 2001.

          Since then I do have a good backup strategy (with most important stuff on amazon glacier).

          So you learned the hard way losing your porn stash 😉 ?

          Jk, and the drive is not for important stuff.

          • @Klear
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            05 hours ago

            PSU you is the other part you don’t want to cheap out on… Guess you got two lessons in one there.

            • @Maalus
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              25 hours ago

              A lot of people learn this lesson sadly. It isn’t “sexy” to brag that you have a gold / platinum rated high quality PSU. People would rather add a “Ti” or a “10” to their graphics card and then lose it all when it goes. Same reason why I have an UPS for home PC - sure, overvoltage, undervoltage, electrical noise probably won’t harm the PC. But why risk it? Also having a battery to save your shit, or buy more electricity online when you run out on a prepaid meter is cool (speaking from experience, happened to me like 10 times already lol)

    • @ValmondOP
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      17 hours ago

      The link in Sanctus post says its SAS to SATA but the other way around doesn’t work for cheap converters 😞

        • @ValmondOP
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          26 hours ago

          Ha ha yes my home is filled with unsuspectedly good stuff from aliexpress 😅

      • @y0din
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        7 hours ago

        sorry if I misunderstood, but wasn’t his drive sas, and he needed to go to sata connections? this does that.

        sas hdd => sata controller connetions

        the converter is not the culprit, the drive needs a sata logo on the label for it to work the other way, which is mentioned on the sales page.

        if the drive had that logo or not is not mentioned as far as I can see

        (edit, thought it was OP replying at first, so changed that, and added requirements for the adapter)

        • @ValmondOP
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          17 hours ago

          That’s exactly what I’d like to find, but you cannot, it seems, connect a SAS disk to a SATA slot on the mobo, only the other way around, with this adapter.

          The comments also seems to say exactly that (you have to put 4 or 5 stars to comment, so that’s a useless measure, gotta read those translated comments).

          • @y0din
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            you can, if you read my edited post, as long as the SATA logo is present on the label of the sas drive

            as mentioned in the description of the product

            • @ValmondOP
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              6 hours ago

              Thank you!

              Mine is suspiciously looking like yours 😁 but Dell, and without the sticker…

              Is it just a Dell rebranded Seagate? I mean Dell doesn’t make drives right? And the serial takes me right to segate drives who are compatible s-ata.

              Guess I’ll gamble a couple of € to see 😁

              • @[email protected]
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                23 hours ago

                Dell drives are rebranded Seagates, however the firmware is slightly modified so the bios recognizes it as a Dell branded drive. Openmanage will throw an error if you use a different drive (though aside from that everything will work fine)

                • @ValmondOP
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                  23 hours ago

                  Thanks! Crossing my fingers 😁

              • @y0din
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                No worries, however I cannot see the SATA marking on yours, just the SAS, or perhaps I am blind, changed contact model today…but please double check before ordering.

                And yes, Dell does not manufacture hard drives, so it’s almost 100% a OEM rebranding.

                if however, it is this drive it should support SATA

                https://www.minitool.com/backup-tips/sas-hard-drive.html?amp

                • @ValmondOP
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                  15 hours ago

                  I’ll get the converter, I’ll let you know how it pans out, and a huge thank you!!

  • @[email protected]
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    29 hours ago

    What you do is to look on the local used hardware sites, search for server, fet a cheap one with SAS interfaces, and now you have the start of a homelab.

  • @9point6
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    This is all assuming it’s a spinning disk and not an SSD, so ignore me if that’s the case:

    Given SAS drives are usually used in data centre storage array applications and 3TB disks have been kinda small for that use case for a fair while, there’s a fairly high chance it was in heavy use for a good number of years. I’d bet it’s probably well on its way to being a paperweight regardless of your connectivity situation.

    If you do get it hooked up, don’t store anything on it you wouldn’t be okay losing.

    • @ValmondOP
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      27 hours ago

      Yep spinning rust.

      Wanted a scratch disk to aggregate all my sensitive information thats scattered and duplicated on smaller disks and thumb drives. Would probably keep it as an ultimate backup too (I got a real backup).

      My thinking was that usually those disks are swapped out after 5 years when failure rates starts to creep up, but there’s still is some life left, largely enough for some fun.

  • TedvdB
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    1918 hours ago

    Yust buy a SAS controller (with cables), they are used pretty cheap.

    • @ValmondOP
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      418 hours ago

      On ebay.fr they are like the price of the drive (around 25€ with shipping) :-(

  • NaibofTabr
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    1317 hours ago

    You can get a SAS USB external enclosure but they’re in the $100 range, probably not worth it for 3TB.

    For internal use, you can get a used PCIe SAS Host Bus Adapter fairly cheap BUT you need to do some research. Before you buy one you should confirm that there is a driver for the OS that you are using and that it is supported on your processor/socket/chipset. These cards are server hardware - many of them are not supported by Windows and/or are not compatible with consumer motherboards & CPUs.

  • @Brkdncr
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    1018 hours ago

    Buy a cheap (used?) SAS controller. No big deal.

    • @ValmondOP
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      318 hours ago

      On ebay.fr they are like the price of the drive (around 25€ with shipping) :-(

      • @Brkdncr
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        1818 hours ago

        Congrats on the new paper weight!

        • @ValmondOP
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          17 hours ago

          Ha ha thanks I guess 😁

  • Toes♀
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    517 hours ago

    You can get a used sas controller for cheap in most cases. Or try your luck with the generic stuff on Amazon.

    • @[email protected]
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      1218 hours ago

      You can adapt SATA drives to an SAS controller, but you cannot adapt SAS drives to a SATA controller.

      • @Sanctus
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        516 hours ago

        Yeah I’m gonna put my chips on the side of “these 8 dollar converters won’t work”

        But maybe OP is brave idk

        • @ValmondOP
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          27 hours ago

          Ya maybe I’ll sit this one out 😁

    • @ValmondOP
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      318 hours ago

      Thanks! Yeah looks like it’s only the other way around.

      • @ABCDE
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        112 hours ago

        Just sell it on or cancel.