• @[email protected]
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    362 months ago

    I really like the safety aspect of this, but 72% capacity after 300 cycles seems low. What’s a use case scenario where this is preferable over lipo batteries?

    • @[email protected]
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      452 months ago

      Much more stable chemistry. In stationary applications, like UPS systems and off grid electrical systems, lead acid is still the standard, due to having stable chemistry, very unlikely to catch fire, and a cost to capacity ratio that is still very good.

      The degradation seems pretty bad, but if it’s stable from 300 cycles onwards, you could take 75% as the actual capacity of the battery.

    • TerkErJerbs
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      122 months ago

      Boats, planes, drones, phones, bikes… Anywhere that you can maximize storage cell capacity in odd shaped volumes and spaces/designs. It’s great.

    • @orrk
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      22 months ago

      Having looked at comparative data, it’s not really out of the norm…

  • @[email protected]
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    172 months ago

    After 300 cycles, a lithium carbide iron disulfide pouch cell retained 72.0% capacity

    Put that on a phone and the battery will degrade almost 30% in one year… seems a lot tbh.

    • @scarabic
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      As a point of reference, Google says that somewhere between 500-2000 cycles you can expect a regular lithium battery to degrade to 80%. So this is worse, but in the ballpark. Seems reasonable for a research prototype to be a little worse than a commercial product that’s had years to become highly optimized.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 months ago

      But depending on cost, in my hopeful optimistic universe, that could mean bringing back replaceable batteries.

  • peopleproblems
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    152 months ago

    But, do they cause a runaway thermal reaction if pierced?

    I demand spicy pillows, not mild ones

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      One of the fabricated battery pouch cells was even able to work after being folded and cut off. “That proves its high safety for practical application,” the researchers emphasized.

      If you can cut it in half and it still works I doubt piercing it will do much.

      • peopleproblems
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        152 months ago

        Oh, oh god. I know exactly how I reasoned that.

        Slashing damage is different than piercing damage in the games I play. For whatever reason I ignored the context.

        • robotica
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          12 months ago

          RPG ahh battery

  • @orrk
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    102 months ago

    it is so interesting to learn just how far behind articles like this are

  • @graycube
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    92 months ago

    I bet if you cut it vertically the lights will go out.

  • @rottingleaf
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    32 months ago

    But does it make a boom when Mossad needs it?