• Steve
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    257 days ago

    It’s so frustrating to see how egregious the future tense has become in all the talking about these products. Also the anticipation of a killer app is never going to sound not desperate.

  • Christopher Wood
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    147 days ago

    With so many parts of tech operating like a mixture of religion and fandom this would be the atheistic answer. (This is my diametric opposite of a sneer.)

  • @[email protected]
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    127 days ago

    This causes me to reflect on contrasting currents in tech culture. I remember growing up with the Apple/Mac rumor culture around the time Steve Jobs came back, and how people had conditioned themselves to get hyped for any little tiny leak about upcoming products. A culture which obviously persists now, albeit in streamlined, advertiser-friendly blog spaces. By contrast, MacWeek magazine had a columnist calling himself Mac the Knife who claimed to have clandestine rendezvous with shady trenchcoat-clad characters in the back alleys of Cupertino… And somehow the new product reveals were almost always somewhat less whelming than the rumormill had built them up to be. Part of the Jobs idolatry that still dominates Silicon Valley is the clear strategy among empty-suit grifters like Altman that such hype is vital but Apple didn’t do enough with it; that you should always be marketing what’s around the corner rather than keeping it hidden away under lock, key, and NDA.

    Contrast this with open-source culture, warts and all. What’s in the repository is the basis of what comes next. You think superintelligence is imminent? OK, where’s the code stubs that will serve as the foundation? Make a pull request for your mega-brain’s medulla, let’s review it. It’s also a big reason why the current round of AI doesn’t fit with open-source culture, no matter how many people are trying to force it. It is inherently an obfuscatory technology. Not just due to the sheer size of the data sets and weights involved, but also through the weird non-deterministic practice of configuring software through natural-language prompts. GIGO at scale, but you can keep the hype going by promising a lower percentage of garbage in the future.

    • Don Piano
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      137 days ago

      The GIGO pipeline: Sure, it’s garbage, but hear me out! What if we increased the throughput?

  • @[email protected]
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    “Sure massively wasteful ‘AI’ systems could somehow solve the climate crisis but they probably most definitely absolutely won’t” so they probably absolutely won’t lol. Half the time it works every time…

    • @[email protected]
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      66 days ago

      Credit is a funny thing. If you merely exist in proximity to a solution, you can, by some means, claim credit to it.

      “AI solved the climate crisis, because look, the climate crisis was solved, and some people also used AI!”

  • paraphrand
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    107 days ago

    I’m sick of things being hyped on potential too.

    VR is an example. (Michael Abrash predictions anyone?) Unfinished games are an example. (Multiplayer Cyberpunk 2077 anyone?)

    • @[email protected]
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      117 days ago

      VR is such an incredible thing for me because I somehow avoided any and all hype around it, then got to play around with some oculus thing at a conference and play Beat Saber and was like wow, this is really cool

      And then you start reading people compare AI hype to VR hype and I’m just sitting there being like wait, was this ever supposed to be more than a Beat Saber platform? What did they claim it would do? Oh no.

      • Steve
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        87 days ago

        What if AI was only ever meant to be the Akinator?

        • @[email protected]
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          The ultimate purpose of AI was always to tell me what digit this is, anything else is just grift

          • @[email protected]
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            56 days ago

            that’s obviously a b that had a phenomenal night out, and just found itself greeting the day from a garden somewhere

  • @Zexks
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    Stopped when he called them stochastic parrots. Knows not what he’s talking about

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/new-theory-suggests-chatbots-can-understand-text-20240122/

    https://pli.princeton.edu/blog/2023/are-language-models-mere-stochastic-parrots-skillmix-test-says-no

    https://armandoscience.com/llm-as-stochastic-parrots/

    There are literally hundreds of these by people far more credentialed than you’ll find in the luddite brigades on lemmy.

    • @MotoAsh
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      47 days ago

      Look up the definition of stochastic. If it doesn’t make sense, you should probably learn to read above a second grade level first.

      • @Zexks
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        Let’s see you’re rebuttals to a berkley doctorat.

        Title/Position Charles C. Fitzmorris Professor Degree Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley, 1994

        This guy says you need to grow up. Who’s needs to learn to read. Moron.

        • @MotoAsh
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          24 days ago

          Appeal to authority falacy and ad hominem. Genuinely, pathetic of you.