Aides and supporters have been working with the mayor on a plan to tough out the political crisis.
  • @[email protected]
    16•2 months ago

    Whatever strategy they choose is probably going to go wrong as others involved start cutting deals to save themselves.

  • @thesporkeffect
    -6•2 months ago

    Hakeem Jeffries! What a surprise to see you again on the wrong side of morality and the law!

    • @[email protected]English
      10•2 months ago

      His statement is the objectively correct side of morality and the law. Every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court. If you disagree with this notion you have no place in any society created after the 1600s.

      • @thesporkeffect
        2•2 months ago

        Okay, I don’t disagree with the statement on the face of it, that’s not what I was reacting to. Why say anything at all, if you are Jeffries? It’s not like it’s going to come out that it was all a big misunderstanding.

        E: alright, I misread the context, fair points

        • @MegaUltraChicken
          6•2 months ago

          There’s no way the House Minority Leader isn’t going to get questions on this. Seems pretty reasonable to get a public statement out.

        • @[email protected]English
          1•2 months ago

          Because he’s a New York politician asked for comment about a person he’s previously disagreed with very publicly.

      • @[email protected]
        -2•2 months ago

        Plenty of society’s after the 1600s, that had people and rulers who disagreed with that notion.

      • @[email protected]English
        -5•2 months ago

        Every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court.

        No. I don’t need to take you to court to prove that you can’t spell ‘escape’ in your username, for example. It’s just an obvious fact.

        You can’t reduce reality to legal issues and then the fact of having committed an unpleasant actions to legal outcomes. Israel could literally blow up courts which start proceedings in terms of international law against the country, for example, that wouldn’t alter the reality of the evidence against Israel.

        If you hit me with your car and I die, and there are witness, you did wrong regardless of what the court says.

        • @idiomaddict
          2•2 months ago

          Innocent and guilty have formal legal definitions and informal, everyday ones. OJ Simpson was found innocent of murder, but I think it’s probably pretty likely that he did it with intent. Those can both be true.

            • @idiomaddict
              1•2 months ago

              It’s surprising that you intended to agree with the original commenter whom you replied to, but sometimes it do be like that.

        • @[email protected]English
          -1•2 months ago

          Incorrect, the reason we don’t live in the reality you describe is witness testimony is unreliable, and mob justice fails every time it’s tried.

          You are innocent until proven guilty. Period. Otherwise I can just say you killed my uncle and kill you in response to that made up event.