I’m actually not sure I understand this one… sounds more like they’re just having a conversation with their reactionary neighbor and trying to speak from a perspective they think they would understand?
I guess maybe I’m confused about what makes this person a tankie, and what makes this conversation bizzar? Is it just that they’re having an intentional conversation about politics, or…?
They are a tankie because they post in Hexbear, which is a tankie instance.
I also find it funny how a MAGA is a reactionary, but democrats are also reactionaries. Everyone I don’t like is a reactionary! Not me though, I want to return to the good old status quo of the soviet union.
The idea of making wild assumptions and disingenuous conversations with your neighbour for the sole purpose of asking a group of strangers how to convert him is fucking bizarre.
IDK this one seems pretty sane except for the usual “China did nothing wrong ever.” For example, they want their neighbor to not vote for Donald. The typical Hexbear is a LARPing MAGA or an accelerationist who wants votes for Donald.
Maybe we could wedge them away from Hexbear by posting flyers around their neighborhood asking why “socialist” China is producing hundreds of billionaires.
They are a tankie because they post in Hexbear, which is a tankie instance.
Hmmm, well this looks like it’s a lemmygrad post but point taken. Safe to assume they also have tankie views, especially since they self-selected into that group
The idea of making wild assumptions and disingenuous conversations with your neighbour for the sole purpose of asking a group of strangers how to convert him is fucking bizarre.
Idk man, we all make assumptions about people’s politics. True, he went in with the intention of ‘converting’ him, but seems like he made an earnest attempt to understand his neighbor’s (presumed) perspectives and spoke to those concerns. Certainly not the worst political interaction I’ve seen, especially on lemmmy. I don’t know if I see anything problematic with what he said he said specifically, though. I guess it would be strange to be so singularly focused on people’s political opinions, fair enough.
I also find it funny how a MAGA is a reactionary, but democrats are also reactionaries.
Maybe we just have different understandings of the word? Reactionary isn’t really a political label, so much as it is just a description of a particular kind of motivation behind political policy. Any political party can have a reactionary perspective if it’s motivated by opposing or reversing social change, and being anti-immigrant is, like, the original reactionary perspective, and it sounds like that was his neighbor’s main political opinion. Even the soviets had some reactionary policies, it’s not really a binary.
Hexbear, Lemmygrad–Same diff. Lemmygrad’s just transphobic
Suppose it’s really just an American thing. You guys have a much different perspective on politics than other countries.
Not sure what you’re saying is different about American politics but sure
American politics is very divisive, with no room for expressing multiple views, you either have one or the other.
Maybe sometimes, but isn’t that true for most of the western world?
not really
This is so weird, because I can imagine both the “my neighbor is a tankie” side of the conversation and the “my neighbor is a magat” side. And they both fucking suck, and I don’t know who to feel worse for…
the state of american discourse?
Actually that person seemed to have handled this in a remarkably mature, restrained, and polite fashion. They were somewhat open-minded that their neighbor could be a decent person, if not a bit presumptuous and naive at first seeing the Trump sign.
It’s a bit bizarre seeing someone talk to a conservative for the first time, but honestly… this kind of approach would make a great model for how leftist should generally approach conservatives. This is in a whole different class of good compared to a lot of the bullshit they (and yall) say online.
Kudos to them, shame on the shamers.
Honestly that’s pretty exciting and I’ve never made that kinda progress with anybody! Personally, I would mix ideological progress with becoming friends outside of politics, since there was once someone very special to me whom I tried to convert, going too far without making much personal progress (also me doing some weird things I’m not too proud of), and it ended badly.
At least they’re honest with their cult
Calling information, that you want to convey, propaganda from the start is quite telling.
Babby’s first conversation with a conservative, it would seem.
It’s amazing how much conservatism relies on there not being that first conversation to begin with. Seems like a win at best or a wash at worst.
Have you spoken to many conservatives?
Was my job working for a rural health department from 2016-2018.
Went to a less rural health dept from 2018-2023 and still ended up dealing with all the conservatives outside city limits anyway.
So yes.
Not sure how you got the idea that the ‘first conversation’ is what’s missing, then.
Just that there tends to be significant lack of interaction with outgroups there. All I was noting.
