• OptionalOP
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    303 months ago

    Consumerism being the last available political act for everyone is pretty resonant.

    • sunzu2
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      183 months ago

      You aint hurting a corpo with your voting but you can hurt a corpo by canceling that subscription.

      • @gerbler
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        43 months ago

        In aggregate yes but individually no. Unless there’s some wider structure organising individuals to withhold their consumption for explicit reasons that the corpo can hear then your unsub won’t have any effect beyond your own sense of self-satisfaction.

        That’s not to say that it’s pointless but if you want to hurt a corpo you need to organise.

        • sunzu2
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          103 months ago

          Personal responsibility starts with each person owning their consumption.

          People don’t need to organize for this, they just need to get educated on managing their consumption. Most of this stuff is common sense.

          But yeah people should be organizing a union at their work when possible or switch jobs every few years for a raise. Attack corpos from all side as a worker and as a consumer.

          • @gerbler
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            Personal responsibility is great but you won’t affect systemic change through personal action. I’m not suggesting you stop being a conscientious consumeror but we have a tendency to keep insisting that the first step is for everyone to individually change.l their behaviour.

            E.g. If you want to personally abstain from contribution to climate change then that’s A-OK but if your goal is to actually prevent it then you need to think and work systemically.

            I don’t mean organise in a workplace (though we all should) I mean organise in a community sense. The idea that you are responsible in part for a systemic problem because of your own consumption habits was foisted on us by corpos to shift blame for the economic and environmental destruction they chose to cause.

            • sunzu2
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              33 months ago

              Without people owning their actions they will never understand the point of solidarity.

              I am proposing an action every can take today… it does not hurt your thesis. It is literally the building block to it.

              I am not here to blame people for consuming, I am merely point out that discretionary spending is a valid vector of attack against corpo trash. You can deny them your money and tell your hommies to do the same. If everyone did it, this can be done overnight.

              Other issues our society faces require hellva a lot more work but again this act is a building block for it. If we can’t get this basic shit done, how do you expect any of this peasants to “organize”

              We clearly got education issue on our hands, most people can’t figure out who is fucking them while jerking politics without any results.

              • TheEmpireStrikesDak
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                23 months ago

                Right? As an example, when I switched to a plant based diet in 2014, if I wanted a vegan pizza or vegan doughnut, for example, I’d have to make them myself or seek out a specialist shop. Now these things are mainstream, even small supermarkets have them, Lidl even has vegan weeks every couple of months. That was unimaginable 10 years ago!

                My actions back then did nothing alone, but it was the slow trickle of others cutting out animal products that added up and created this demand. And one person setting an example can encourage friends and family to give it a go.

        • @[email protected]
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          53 months ago

          The problem with this, is that many use it to justify their own inaction and direct benefit from problematic things. It honestly doesn’t matter if you don’t organise, you should have basic goddamn morals and not enrich your life at the expense of others.

  • @dohpaz42
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    163 months ago

    Yes and no. Yes, we’ve been stripped of our ability to protest in any real and meaningful way outside of “voting with our wallet”, but no because even then it’s a futile effort because these sinister people/corporations are so prevalent in our culture that we cannot escape funding them; either directly or indirectly.

    Take Nestle, known evil corp that thinks water is a commodity and not a basic life right. Or General Mills, who recently drew the ire of everybody over their proposal to take away worker benefits. And I’m sure there are more that I’m not thinking of; that if you put them all together, would make people very hard pressed to buy the things they love.

  • @yesman
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    123 months ago

    I think this helps explain the ridiculous phenomena of video-game-activism that’s so vocal and present on the internet.

    • sunzu2
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      53 months ago

      Bitching online while still pre-ordering that shit is not activism lol

      • @yesman
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        Bitching online while still pre-ordering that shit is not activism lol

        Your comment is a perfect example of what OP is talking about. You believe that if gamers changed their purchasing decisions on mass, then companies would have to change. What is that if not activism? You’re treating capitalism as though it were a democracy.

        And you’re wrong btw, Game companies make games for investors, not gamers. If you don’t believe me then please explain why so many live service games get made even though gamers have clearly voted against them with their wallets.

        • sunzu2
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          43 months ago

          Games is 100% discretionary spending. as long as idiots keep spending money, the merchant will keep selling low quality engagement slop…

          You bitching online about it while giving company money is an idiotic exercise. Deny them profit and spend your money with a merchant that delivers what is advertised. I am amazed at the amount of push back this basic concept gets. God forbid peasants have own their shiti consumption patterns. God forbid they have to change any of it.

  • @Cryophilia
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    13 months ago

    Better yet, see a normal movie without giving a shit what anyone involved did in their personal lives.

  • @RaoulDook
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    I saw that one with the gross lobster rape scene