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The Abandon Harris movement that sprouted late last year out of the widespread outrage over the Biden-Harris administration’s support for the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza has officially endorsed the Green Party’s Jill Stein for US president.
The endorsement is the first of its kind for Stein and the Green Party, with the Abandon Harris campaign being the first major Muslim-led political group to endorse her campaign this election cycle. Last month, a smaller group, the Muslim American Public Affairs Council NC, also endorsed Stein.
“We are not choosing between a greater evil and a lesser evil. We are confronting two destructive forces: one currently overseeing a genocide and another equally committed to continuing it. Both are determined to see it through,” the Abandon Harris campaign said in a statement released on Monday.
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I voted for Howie Hawkins last time, certain in the knowlege that Biden would win, Trump would go to jail, and we could hold Biden’s feet to the fire.
January 6th, and all the related bullshit that’s followed, showed me thah I had made a huge mistake and just got lucky when it comes to the MAGA-crowds coup competence. I will not make that mistake again, not in this election anyways.
“Abandon Harris” is a shit campaign name. Self-aware guilt, right in the name.
Biden won. Trump is not in Jail. Biden and Harris are committing Genocide.
I’m not sure where you “realized you were wrong”. If anything you were right to vote for Howie.
Exactly what Russia wants to be able to put Trump back in office.
You know what’s worse than one genocide, multiple genocides.
Jill Stein and Trump would pull funding from Ukraine and weaken NATO in anyway they can.
Trump would create ANOTHER genocide inside the US while allowing Israel to destroy their surrounding neighbors.
I just wish we had STAR voting so additional candidates wouldn’t increase the risk of Trump winning the election. So many people are either blind to the present danger or they spread misinformation because they hate the US.
Do you believe that third party voters could be perfectly rational and not spread misinformation?
I believe you’re in the group wishing for a disastrous outcome.
Is Communism a “disastrous outcome” in your opinion, and genocide perfectly acceptable? You’re being vague yet still slandering.
No. I believe you sincerely disagree with core tenets of US government and wish the government to be dismantled.
Correct, that’s the best outcome for everyone the world over, including Americans.
You’re entitled to that opinion. That’s why I assumed you to be in the latter group.
I’m certainly wrong about plenty of things, but I have seen too much violence and hatred grow out of Trump’s first presidency. I do not share your desires for the US.
If Jill Stein got elected and pulled out of NATO she would be the best US President in history for the Global South. Anyone who understands and agrees with ACAB but supports NATO has no idea about how Capitalism and by extension Imperialism functions.
Considering being in NATO protects countries from a Russian land grab like what happened in Ukraine, being part of NATO is antiimperialism.
Russia is genociding Ukrainians. They are also torturing, raping, and murdering POWs, women citizens, and children.
Please read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. We are not talking about the same thing. You are furthering my point, you do not understand NATO’s purpose in solidifying Western Imperialism.
Explain why Jill Stein got cleared by the Senate Intelligence Committee. Or can you only link a 10 year old picture over and over again? Would be great if you had anything less than 10 years old :)
Try not to project Kamala Harris being an israeli agent on a third party against Genocide.
Voting for Stein in a FPTP voting system doesn’t solve the problem that’s been turned into a one issue campaign slogan. Even if she was the perfect candidate. The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election, and out of those two choices, suddenly who to vote for is obvious. If it wasn’t already.
The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election
Which is nearly impossible, ergo it isn’t a solution. Revolution is necessary.
Is Harris going to implement RCV? If not your argument is a red herring.
You know who is implementing RCV? Jill Stein.
Can’t wait for tolerant liberals to go full mask off and claim these Muslims just must not be smart enough to realize the threat of Trump… Again.
One of said liberals is malding at me right now for pointing out that they are being blatantly racist.
They’ve been saying that for months right here on Lemmy.
You don’t think Trump is going to be infinitely worse than Harris on this issue in particular?
Being murdered in a genocide seems about as worse as it can get. Would Trump reanimate the corpses and then murder them again or something?
It doesn’t get worse than being genocided, is the point these people are making.
Both Harris and Trump, equally think Muslims and other unwanted statistically brown people deserve to be subject to genocide and are willing to commit massive amount of funds to that end.
Absolutely not. Historically, the DNC and GOP are in lock-step for foreign policy.
I don’t think that’s entirely accurate.
Why not?
Because there are very clear differences between how the two parties handle foreign policy, for one thing.
If Trump were doing it you might getout of your chair and materially oppose it rather than making excuses for an imagined lesser evil genocide.
So you want Trump in office because of that? You don’t care about anything else, I take it?
No Trump will be exactly the same. Only the words will be different.
I do believe Jill Stein will be different though.
Jill Stein is literally a paid spoiler candidate who fails at even that.
