• @[email protected]
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    173 hours ago

    “child, 13” - a 13yo is a teenager, not a child.

    That article was a pain in the ass to read, horribly structured.

    What she did: “The court heard the girl was taken to the protest outside the Potters International Hotel, which houses asylum seekers, by a parent of a friend. Police body-worn video showed the teenager briefly bang and kick at a door of the hotel while voices could be heard telling her to stop.”

    Her sentence, a “12-month referral order”: “A referral order means you are required to attend a youth offender panel. The panel, you, your parents/carers and the victim (where appropriate) agree a contract aimed at repairing the harm that has been caused and addressing the causes of the offending behaviours.” (https://unlock.org.uk/advice/referral-order-18/)

    The conviction seems to be on permanent record, though, which does seem a bit much for this considering her age.

    • @gAlienLifeform
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      102 hours ago

      If the Wikipedia page on expungement is accurate there is some sort of process where it will get sealed from public view after a certain amount of time has passed.

      I do agree if this is a one off thing it shouldn’t haunt the rest of her life, especially given the fact that we’re talking about a thirteen year old who was a victim of (at best) extremely negligent caregiving.

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        Good find! And yeah, the referral order sentence seems to be rather obviously aimed at rehabilitation instead of punishing, would be weird if that was combined with a lifelong criminal record that is visible to potential employers and the like.

    • @Telodzrum
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      62 hours ago

      Teenagers are children, my dude.

        • @andrewta
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          62 hours ago

          At 13 they basically are still children

          • @[email protected]
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            At 13, they are both basically and literally teenagers, which comes with the legal consequence of being liable for criminal actions.

            • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown
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              I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure “teenager” is not a legal distinction for which liability is determined. You are either an adult or not, and judges have leeway to funnel non-adults through an alternative justice system not available to adults.

  • @gAlienLifeform
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    213 hours ago

    Conservatives when a criminal justice system is punishing someone they don’t like: “Blood for the blood god!”

    Conservatives when someone’s held accountable for a hate crime: “What has happened to our humanity?!”