I recently got my first road/endurance bike, a Felt VR60. According to the specs, the wheels it came with are: Devox WheelRDS.A3, Tubeless ready, 6-hole, 12x100/12x142 mm. Default tires it came with are Vittoria Zaffira V tires.

I’m thinking of doing some light gravel riding with this bike, so was considering some 30mm tires to swap between depending on the activity I want to do. However, I have no idea what I should be looking for when it comes to buying new tires/tubes.

  1. What factors do I need to worry about when buying new tires? I assume the wheel size matters, right?

  2. Can I reuse my existing tubes, or do I need new ones?

  3. Searching for 30mm gravel tires, I mostly found tubeless options. Is there a reason for that?

  4. Anything else I should know before buying and swapping tires?

Any help is greatly appreciated here :)

  • @Pringles
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    51 year ago

    I recently got my first road/endurance bike, a Felt VR60. According to the specs, the wheels it came with are: Devox WheelRDS.A3, Tubeless ready, 6-hole, 12x100/12x142 mm. Default tires it came with are Vittoria Zaffira V tires.

    Congrats on your new bike! Looking it up here the felt VR60 can clear up to 35 mm knobby tires even though Felt claims 30mm. That being said, the VR60 might be different than the carbon frames ones.

    I’m thinking of doing some light gravel riding with this bike, so was considering some 30mm tires to swap between depending on the activity I want to do. However, I have no idea what I should be looking for when it comes to buying new tires/tubes.

    1. What factors do I need to worry about when buying new tires? I assume the wheel size matters, right?

    First take a look at what size tires you have already. If you have a smooth 28 or 30mm, you’re not going to tell much difference going up a couple of mm. On the side of the tire it should say something like 700x25. The last number is the mm width. If you have something close to 30 already, just go give the gravel road a ride and see how you feel. If you feel like you’re slipping and sliding around, you may want a tire with more tread/knobs. If you feel like you’re getting punched in the bum and need more cushion, a bigger tire will make more sense. Usually 5mm wider or more is a noticeable difference. And if you get a flat, now you have an excuse to buy new tires! But otherwise there’s no need to buy something unnecessarily. Just ride.

    Other factors will include, tire clearance on your frame and fork, are your wheels tubeless compatible, what diameter are they (700c), and what is the recommended with of tire for the internal rim width. Unless you’re going up from like a 23mm to a 35 or more the internal rim width should be fine though.

    1. Can I reuse my existing tubes, or do I need new ones?

    Assuming you don’t have a flat, in most cases you should be fine. If you look up tubes, they’re usually sold supporting a range, like 700cx23-32. That’s because the rubber will inflate and stretch a bit. Just make sure you get 700c (standard diameter for road bike wheels)

    1. Searching for 30mm gravel tires, I mostly found tubeless options. Is there a reason for that?

    Tubeless offers several benefits, the biggest one being you can’t flat by pressing the tube against the rim/tire, i.e. a snakebite, and you can seal up small punctures, sometime without even noticing until after the ride! It’s also a softer ride because you can run lower pressures and lower rolling resistance compared to a tube at the same pressure. Tires need to be constructed differently to seal well with liquid sealant, so unless they’re labeled as TR, or tubeless ready, it’s not recommended to run them tubeless.

    1. Anything else I should know before buying and swapping tires?

    My first recommendation is before buying anything, try riding it first then see if you really need new tires. If you do, consider how much riding you do on the road vs on gravel.

    In my experience, swapping tires between road and gravel tires takes a while, and you’ll generally end up not doing it because of the effort. In that case I’d recommend a “do it all” tire like the Specialized pathfinder which has a center smooth strip and texture on the sides. Look up some videos on tubeless or have your bike shop do it for you. It can be a lot of work/equipment to set up yourself.

    The pricier but more convenient method is to get a second wheelset you’d swap on depending on if you want to ride road/off-road. I do this personally and it’s much faster to switch compared to switching tires, and I get a pure road tire and a knobby tire. Lots of people sell wheelsets on craigslist or FB, and you can use the wheel info you already have to confirm they’ll work with your bike. In your case, you’ll look for a 700c disc brake wheelset that takes 12mm through axles. From there you may need to buy additional brake rotors, and a matching cassette.

  • @fodderoh
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    21 year ago

    Tubeless is very common for gravel both because they aren’t as susceptible to flats and because they don’t need to be inflated to as a high a pressure as tubes do, which gives you more stability.

    12x100/12x142 tells you wheel width at the axle, not size. Those widths are pretty standard in the industry. Unless you are very short, they are most likely 700c (29 inch) wheels.

    You’ll want to understand what width wheel your bike came with as wheel rims are meant to be used with compatible width tires.

    To use a 30mm tire you would want a 700x30 wheel.

    A 30mm wheel on a road bike out of the box would be unusual, I think. But I could be out of date on that. I know the trend has moved more towards wider wheels in recent years.

    You’d want make sure your frame can take a 30mm wheel as well.

    All that being said, if you have a good local bike shop, I would definitely recommend going to them. They will be able to look at your bike and help point you in the right direction. A local bike shop is an invaluable resource for folks just getting in cycling.

  • Turkey_Titty_city
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    -21 year ago

    would you take a honda civic offroading?

    you are trying to make your bike into something that it is not design to do. you will have a bad time.

    your bike can do hardpacked dirt no problem. it cannot do gravel. you do not have the tire clearance for proper gravel tires and you will get rocks stuck in your frame/tire and cause damage to your bike.

    if you want a gravel bike, sell this bike and buy a gravel bike.

    • @ObsessionOP
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      21 year ago

      I’m not planning on doing very rough gravel. The trails I have in mind are all hard packed gravel and paved surfaces, but not the best quality paving.

      Here’s an example of what I mean

      It looks like something that should be doable even on my 25 road tires, but I’d like to take this chance to also learn about different tires on my bike, and it would be a lot more comfortable on 28 gravel tires.

      • Turkey_Titty_city
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        1 year ago

        how old is your bike? the bike you linked should have come with 30mm road tires. those are what you should use for hard packed roads. if your bike is a few years old and came with 25mm tires it probably can’t fit 30s. my road bikes are all 5+ years old and none of them fit wider than 28mm.

        you do not need gravel tires for that sort of thing. at all. i ride those roads on my 23mm road bike and it’s totally fine.

        ‘gravel biking’ in 2023 means a bike with 40mm+ tires that is basically a light mountain bike.