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Billionaires should not exist.
What? No. I’m so glad billionaires are a thing. They’re doing all of that polluting on my behalf!
I mean there’s only 24 hours in a day…
And they are collectively shortening our lifetimes too so we pollute less so they can keep their jetliners running during a lunch break in France!
What really irks me are people that think there’s such a thing as a “good” billionaire. Had an argument one time because I said all billionaires are inherently shitty, and my colleague was trying to convince me that Bill Gates is actually a good person.
Get real son, the path to billionaire is paved with blood.
bill gates being less shitty than most does not make him good.
Bill Gates the Microsoft guy? The one that just demolished competition? The same company that ran afoul of US antitrust law? Bill Gates the guy that had a non zero number of African nations ask him to stop helping, that guy?
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The math here is the sort of thing that drives apathy for me to make small incremental changes. If the superrich can dump ~250 avg. emission years over the course of a year, why should I do anything besides lobby against this mode of transport or other large consumers? Maybe it’s a “spirit of the thing,” but changes in my life seem so negligible compared to how ruinous some individuals are acting.
There are 801 billionaires in the US out of about 335,893,238 people. If everyone else were to reduce their carbon footprint by even a tenth of a percent then there would be significantly less carbon in the atmosphere than if every billionaire in the US were to reduce their carbon footprint to zero.
This is also assuming that the 300+ million Americans have the same size carbon footprint, which is probably not true if you think about it for more than a second. I doubt the bottom 60% of earners in the country have the purchasing power to create that much waste through excess consumerism at this point.
Most of those “Shein/Temu/Aliexpress” hauls or 10x vacations across the world in a year you see on social media are not done by middle or lower income people/families.
This is very much a top heavy issue.
Sure, but the individual contribution vs. companies / state-owned organizations is like 70% come from 100 companies / orgs. So the individual percentage is still negligible.
I’m not disagreeing with the math. I’m saying when you want to make changes, you start with the most meaningful funnel. If you have 2 factors contributing to a problem, factor 1 contributes 70%, factor 2 contributes 30%, going after factor 2 seems like a waste of time. 1%s contribute 1000x the amount of the average. Who should be making lifestyle changes here?
#voidscreaming
Ok now do millionaires
I can’t get 3 people to agree on lunch. No way are we goi g to all agree on carbon footprint reduction actions.
It’s easier to stop 801 people vs 335 million.
Or, you know, we could just…you know…do the thing that really takes care of the problem.
The “turn the water off while you’re brushing your teeth” crap on TV was a corpo psyop. Individual responsibility is a myth concocted and propagated by the very people who have actually been causing the vast majority of the damage.
What people fail to see is that we need billionaires to consume all the wealth we make, otherwise we wouldn’t know what to spend it on. /s
This is such a dumb stat. Y’all just want to blame consumption on someone other than yourself.
I’ll blame the consumption on me when it’s my mega yacht, private plane, fleet of cars and whatever the fuck else.
This is such a weird comment to make. Why is the stat dumb? There are many words to use to describe a stat, dumb doesn’t mean anything. You don’t even explain why.
How does that help me blame consumption on others? You’re confusing “i want billionaires to stop polluting too” with “I can pollute because look at this dumb stat”. And we all know where you got the latter and why you think people are like that. Projections as usual.
Why be a billionaire apologist? Whatever you want billionaires don’t help you achieve it, and are arguably worse for you in every way. It’s really weird to defend them, especially on this topic
Some people just never get over their first taste of boot
This is an amazingly underrated comment
The stat clearly shows billionaires are doing far more consumption. Seems more like you want to blame consumption on someone other than the worst offenders.
🤷♂️ I’m not going to try and pump up numbers that are consumption of consumers. It’s dumb 🤷♂️
The billionaires themselves are pumping up the numbers.
