• Mr. Satan
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    1211 hours ago

    Speaking of Ukraine, did you know that currently there are North Korean solders contributing to the invasion. Not only 3 day special military operation is taking 3 years, but also russia, by itself, is unable to complete it.

    • Possibly linux
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      23 hours ago

      I believe it was like 15,000 troops

      I wonder if they will use the North Korean strategy for saving resources (not feeding its people)

      Also Ukraine has F-16s from the Netherlands (Russia shot down a NL plane killing hundreds of civilians)

    • @[email protected]
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      613 hours ago

      I’m brand new to Lemmy.

      I’ve seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there’s a bad apple and nothing is being done about it

      • @[email protected]
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        the main reason is because the people who run lemmy.ml are actually the people whi created lemmy.

        Also welcome.

        [email protected] and [email protected] are useful for new users.

        Also if you’re looking for an instance that has ML defederatrd but is still well federated with everything else I recommend lemmy.cafe

    • @[email protected]
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      -1616 hours ago

      I’m gonna guess because the instance is administrated by lemmy main devs and despite them being tankies the quality of discussion is still higher than in other instances. You can compare lemmy.ml local home with lemmy.world

      • @barsquid
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        1715 hours ago

        I’ve seen you urging US voters to back third parties despite the mathematical realities of FPTP voting. Of course you prefer discussion on .ml.

        • @[email protected]
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          -88 hours ago

          What’s the alternative? Urging them to vote for a fascist or for a genocide supporter?

          Lemmy.world home is filled with memes and news from mass media. Lemmy.ml home looks ten times more serious.

          • @SkyezOpen
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            45 hours ago

            What will that accomplish? Tangibly.

        • @IndustryStandard
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          -811 hours ago

          I have seen you defending Israel of course you prefer .world

          • @barsquid
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            911 hours ago

            I don’t agree with the atrocity they are committing. Link me to my defense of Israel or (my preference) stop telling lies.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve completely blocked them and lemmy is still decent.

        I would have thought there would be more concerns with then breaking US/AU or EU laws by there being content explicitly supporting designated terrorist organisations like hezbollah, which is illegal in most of the western world.

        • @[email protected]
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          -516 hours ago

          I do not support their tankie mindset and ban policies but i don’t really wish lemmy devs to be persecuted by authorities, especially over comments in an internet forum.

          • @[email protected]
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            716 hours ago

            I don’t wish for that either, but what I mean is I would have expected mods from other instances to be more weary of the potential legal issues.

            • @[email protected]
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              713 hours ago

              WARY

              Sorry friend, you were the unlucky perpetrator that I saw today. This is my Long Defeat that I will fight until I die.

              • @[email protected]
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                TIL. Thanks. Dunno I use weary or wary enough to have ever even thought about it. 😆

    • @barsquid
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      1115 hours ago

      Sometimes facts hurt our feelings and that makes them bad and wrong!

    • @PugJesusOPM
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      711 day ago

      Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared ‘independence’ from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

      Alternatives or addendums:

      • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
      • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
      • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
      • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
      • Nougat
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        451 day ago

        Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

        NATO: exists

        Is this provocation?

      • DarkThoughts
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        151 day ago

        Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

        Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

        Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

          • DarkThoughts
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            It doesn’t even matter in this day and age. Claims have no meaning anymore since borders are internationally recognized as they are and only legitimately changed through diplomacy, not through acts of war. In this case, Russia very much, on multiple occasions, acknowledged the borders (including Crimea) and Ukraine’s sovereignty - including their potential wish to join NATO (I don’t remember if it was Lavrov who said it, it was some old interview).

      • @lemonmelon
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        Russia is so glorious and advanced that even their three-day invasions last over 300× longer!

    • @mojofrododojo
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      921 hours ago

      the morons brought their dress uniforms to an invasion believing they’d be needed for the PARADES.

      goddamn I can’t tell who’s dumber, putin thinking this shit would work, or the idiots that tried it.

  • @okamiueru
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    What side of distorted reality are they going for here? It’s become harder to tell. You’d think anti-Russian, right? Except Republicans are weirdly pro Putin because their orange clown has a hardon for dicktators.

    • @ZILtoid1991
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      915 hours ago

      Basically modern-day Russia still uses Stalinist newspeak, and tankies take it in good faith. In Stalinist newspeak, “imperialism” meant “opposition of the Soviet empire”.

      Another thing is, tankies also think the USA is the only obstacle in a global communist revolution, and that social autocracies like Russia and China are not going hinder any attempt at it. China is now also exploiting the global south, and I cannot convince tankies that the Hungaran Fudan university isn’t being gifted for free by the Chinese, but is on a loan that Hungarian taxpayers have to pay back.

    • @PugJesusOPM
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      261 day ago

      Pro-Russian. .ml is big on bootlicking Putin against ‘Western Imperialism’ and opposing the ‘Ukronazis’.

    • sunzu2
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      Both alt left and alt right repeat russian talking points.

      • @barsquid
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        311 hours ago

        Just totally normal stuff when leftists team up with the furthest right theocratic authoritarians against their true enemy, classic liberals.

  • @Warl0k3
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    221 day ago

    Boy, they sure are going full Gonzolo Lira over there…

      • @Warl0k3
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        121 day ago

        I’d much much prefer they live to reevaluate their opinions, but I do understand the sentiment.

  • @grue
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    Meanwhile, they’ve poisoned the discourse enough that mods on other instances are over-sensitive to anything that even resembles the sort of stuff they say, and are going overboard in the other direction. For example, I got 24h banned from [email protected] a few days ago for calling Democrats right-wing (which is also an easily verifiable fact – nobody disputes that economic liberalism is right-wing, except apparently in that community now).

    Edit: some people here are really mad about facts. FYI, you folks are part of the problem. I’ll also note that none of the downvoters have bothered to refute my argument/explain why the mod action against me was justified, so I can only conclude that they know I’m right and are simply butthurt about it for some reason.

    • Possibly linux
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      23 hours ago

      You sound like a tankie. I’d imagine the mods probably are pretty gun happy when they see some potential tankie show up.

    • @Warl0k3
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      1320 hours ago

      In defense of the anons, you probably got the temp ban because that argument is a #1 hit among bad faith trolls coming in to spread their hyperconservstive rhetoric. Unfortunately nuance and the assumption of good faith were among the first casualties of this propaganda war, and it’s damned tragic that thats the case.

      • @grue
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        419 hours ago

        You’re not wrong. Still, if somebody could’ve been bothered to voice their objection to it I could’ve clarified that I meant that Democrats and Republicans are both right-wing only in the same sense that two and 6 million are both positive numbers, not that I was trying to make some bad-faith “both sides” argument. But I didn’t even get one chance to explain myself – no warning, no comment removal without ban, nothing – and that’s not okay.

        Banning is a thing that should only happen after a user demonstrates a pattern of bad-faith; not based on a single questionable comment (let alone one that’s only questionable because the mod misunderstood it).

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          Noone’s going to start pattern-analysing for a 24 hour ban. Your bar didn’t trespass you, they cut you off and told you to go home because your behaviour wasn’t vibing right.

          Your offence? Failure to read the room and make the argument in the way you did here. Mods rightly aren’t concerned about individual justice in those cases but keeping the community from beating each other up because they’re shouting past each other.

    • @PugJesusOPM
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      151 day ago

      Yeah, there’s an element of hypervigilance going on especially now. I hope it’ll die down some after the election. Really need to make people understand the difference between ‘left-wing’ and ‘tankie/tankie apologist shithead’.