• HomebrewHedonist
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    -12 hours ago

    Robinson seems like someone I would expect Americans to vote for. If you really think about it, it’s because they are themselves like him.

  • Norah - She/They
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    107 hours ago

    that would require 100% voter turnout, when the US doesn’t even come close. please try and remember that. if you go off just voting age population, only 27.18% of people voted for cheeto man. if you include everyone, that figure drops to just 20.59%.

      • @isles
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        46 hours ago

        Yes, and if you don’t like that, there’s a lot of work to be done. Grab a shovel

  • Flying Squid
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    249 hours ago

    You’re talking about these people.

    So of course they would also prefer a Nazi.

    Anything but “the other team” winning.

      • Flying Squid
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        68 hours ago

        Never mind their ancestors, their past selves. Do you think they would have worn a shirt like that under Reagan? Or even under Bush Jr.? They would have screamed at anyone they saw wearing a shirt like that about being some sort of commie traitor. Despite Bush Jr. being post-communism.

      • @[email protected]
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        1918 hours ago

        The percentage of votes Trump receives is not out of 100% of the USA population, it’s out of however many voted.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 hours ago

          Rough numbers/back of the napkin trigger warning. 73 million out of a population of 337 million is roughly 21.7% of the population. Remember that when Ds and Rs yell about “half the country”

        • HubertManne
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          617 hours ago

          still. over 50% of the electorate who cared to vote. its almost worse in some ways. over 50% of the best of us.

          • @MutilationWave
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            27 hours ago

            I wouldn’t say the best. There are a lot of people who love to vote R and especially for Trump because they think that fucking up other people’s lives will make their life better. Some, like my father-in-law, are irredeemable assholes that love irredeemable assholes.

            • @[email protected]
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              15 hours ago

              Fucking up other people’s lives is basically the status quo for capitalists.

              If other people get benefits you don’t, either because you don’t need them, or you don’t want them, then they see it as a hand out, giving their money to the filthy poors to unjustly elevate them potentially above those that they are taking from.

              Aggressive capitalists see everything as a race/ladder. Being in a better position than someone else because you’re more wealthy/powerful/whatever, is the most important factor, and any kind of charity regarding providing basic needs to those who fall upon hard times is seen as a sin.

              It’s a demented and selfish mentality that’s unnecessarily cruel to those less fortunate, simply because they can be. Anyone “below” them on the ladder (or “behind” them in the race), is less than them. So they idolize anyone who they view as “successful” or “wealthy” because they see them as “winning” the race. Something they desperately want to achieve.

            • HubertManne
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              15 hours ago

              I don’t get trump voters but the fact is they are engaged in their democracy. They are more responsible for the election of trump but the fact is I would not want to live in a democracy that attempted to filter out folks like that from voting because of course you can’t trust any filter like that. Ironically one reason I vote against them is because they talk about limitinig the voting pool to get rid of the groups that don’t vote right. I guess the real irony is the ones who don’t vote are sorta doing what they want without them having to legislate it.

  • @ChonkyOwlbear
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    4618 hours ago

    It’s small comfort, but a large portion of that 40% just vote straight R all the way down the ballot without the slightest bit of knowledge of who they are voting for.

    • @[email protected]
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      58 hours ago

      Honestly, this is so, so important. They’re as unreachable as MAGAts and it’s time to stop pretending otherwise. Moderate policies watering down every single plan, “reaching out” to the other side with centrist compromises that will excite and energize exactly no one… I guarantee you, there’s many rural, low-educated voters that will never in their lives put a ‘D’ on their ballot no matter what. We need to actually show what we can do for workers in this country with big, bold legislation that will tangibly improve people’s lives.

    • Flying Squid
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      38 hours ago

      I am guessing most of that large portion were still aware of the “black Nazi” shit and it wasn’t enough to make them think maybe they shouldn’t vote straight R.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        23 hours ago

        That is where the fostering of the idea that the media is unreliable comes in. Even if they heard this, they didn’t believe it to be true.

      • @thesporkeffect
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        25 hours ago

        I don’t think many R voters in NC have any contact with news outside of the fox breitbart oann whatever conservative talking head is popular now.

        On the other hand I agree that if they heard about it it wouldn’t have changed their vote, though.