If you’re in the US, civil service is hiring a shit load of external employees. Especially people with electrical and computer science backgrounds. They count experience and work history equivalent to education.

Eh. Society stops functioning when not working is a viable path. No one wants to work. The people training the AI, designing the machines that can perform physical actions, the people building and maintaining the assembly, the people working the jobs that can’t be performed by AI, etc. They will not have motivation to work if they have the option to not do so and live comfortably.

People act like it’s AI is threatening to remove the need for people to work. That is not anything even remotely feasible in any imaginable 50 year future.

Instead, it threatens to remove some jobs, while humanity has ample capacity for gainful employment elsewhere. So many industries are under staffed.

Ex: Maybe warehouse workers get largely replaced by drones, but the caretaking support industry could use a huge influx of able bodied workers. Etc etc.

I like to work. I enjoy building things; if we lived in a post-scarcity Star Trek world, I would still be in construction.

The problem I have is that we don’t live in that world, and most companies don’t want to pay me enough to live comfortably, so when I’m applying for jobs, I have to pass over most of them

Stupid fucking “protestant work ethic” states that work will set you free or some shit. I’ve met the types and they are just sO haPpY to WoRK it’s nauseous.

And because the way projection works, if you believe in something, surely others do and if they don’t theyre degenerate.

WHY HELLO THERE.

Interestingly enough, vinotempo’s twitter link also contains an image with source citations for all of the quotes.

Hi, it’s from a tweet by a university researcher: https://nitter.net/paulisci/status/1549527748950892544

If you search for the phrase ‘nobody wants to work’ or ‘no one wants to work’ on books.google.com you’ll find loads of examples. I narrowed my search to 1800-1900 and found many articles and books with that phrase; interestingly, here’s one basically advocating for anti-work in 1885:

Q: I am now talking about the economic law and not the divine law. What is the use of working if we can get all the houses we want to live in, and all the clothes we want to wear, and all that we want to eat without working? Nobody wants to work, I suppose, for the sake of working. Why not engage in intellectual pursuits and stop working so hard? A: Some are doing that. You are, as well as many others, and you probably work a great deal longer hours than ever you worked upon a farm.

Most are not like that, but the standard complaint (and a caveat: I haven’t read the whole text). I just found this one fascinating. It’s an intriguing search, anyway.

Not really. Resources are limited. Work is required to convert raw resources into things that can be consumed. Even if you lived by yourself (on land that would need to be purchased), you’d have to work, likely even more than you do now, but you’d get full value of your work. And you’d still likely not be 100% sustainable and require some imports. So you’d still need to trade, barter, or sell stuff.

Edit: that being said, I do believe socialism, or at the very least socialistic capitalism is better than what we have now (granted there’s some socialistic programs in place, but not nearly enough or setup properly). The capitalism being practiced right now is much more cut throat than even in the 70s or 80s (when we also taxed the rich much more and surprisingly the economy did wonderfully and didn’t collapse as wealthy people want to suggest). The value of work is being siphoned off and given to the wealthy. They’re taking money others earned and doing very little in return. The stock market is the most toxic thing to our economy.

I don’t think the idea is that no one should work, but that no one should need to work.

I picture a scenario where if you can’t work or you’re ok just getting by by lazing around all day that’s fine, but you only get enough for a home and some food. If you want more you gotta do something. This isn’t me though.

Then if you’re a person who loves to work you can make all the money and get shit done and buy all the fancy stuff and live your life the way the want. That’s not me either.

I’m somewhere in the middle. It’s not that I don’t want to work. I just want to work on something fulfilling, and having a boss sucks. I want to be able to work when I want and have time to get things done in my personal life. My days off are always working on some kind of personal project anyway so I’m not lazy, I just want my life to be mine.

It’s about the freedom to choose. With all the advances in automation we should be able to have all these options available but the rich just hoard the money.