Is anybody denying Trump’s guilt?
They will drop all changes when trump takes power. So yes.
It’s the party that lies through their teeth. Why on earth would you think they would admit anything?
Well it’s a juxtaposition isn’t it? On one hand you have the dems delaying the confirmation using the same tactics trump did. On the other you have him coming into power and having the justice department drop the charges.
And it’s the same Republicans who said Supreme Court nominations shouldn’t happen right before an election and also voted in nominations right before an election. They don’t give us shit about anything. Why would we go through a stunt when they wouldn’t think twice about how they are hypocritics. they know then are, they just don’t care.
Why not? Give em hell. That’s what I say.
Repubs think they are all so crass when they break the rules. They think they’ve outsmarted everyone and really pulled one over on us simpletons.
I know, and you know this too, we are holding back. We have morals so we cant engage. The same faculties that gave us those immutable morals could be used for other purposes though.
Good natured people, in my mind, are brilliant people. They do the hard thing because it’s the right thing. The second they don’t have to do the hard thing anymore because it’s no longer the right thing is like removing a handicap. Think of the most clever, most hard working, and determined people you know. If they don’t vote D I don’t believe you know any.
It doesn’t matter because they will just spin it, ignore any relevance to their own actions, and repeat it enough that it becomes the narrative. This is the standard M.O.
The people it matters to won’t be Republicans. It will be a signal to everyone one who has invested the last 8 years in them they won’t go down without a fight.
Sure, and?
Remember when they had a hissy fit about a Supreme Court nomination too close to an election, refused to fill and then decided the opposite was true if trump was in charge?
I think overall there is no pathway to seating kamala and it would just be a waste of time. At the same time, though, what a way to send a message. I think if the democrats understood how deep under water they were it would be the most beautiful death throw.
Ehhh, I think it sends a message to any Independent or wavering trump voter that “hey, 'member all the threat to democracy stuff we talked about? Yeah, just kidding!”
Sucks to be the adult party but such is life.
You’re not being the adult. The adult gets their hands dirty when it’s time to get their hands dirty. Who watches the watchers? The answer isn’t crime fighting vigilantes. It’s other watchers.
Decorum. Rules. Norms. Can and will all be ignored. The Republicans will use every facet of their power and the democrats will pray to the gods of civility that the Republicans stop.
This time is different, though. This time they said they will not freely cede power. I think you will find it makes a big differnce.
I’m not understanding what you’re trying to say.
Are you saying the Democrats, after called trump’s use of fake electors a threat to democracy, should try that failed tactic?
And are you saying this for 2024? After the Dems lost the popular vote, every swing state, the Senate and Congress, Dems should try to install Kamala as the 2024 winner?
Or that they should do that in 2028, regardless of the outcome or only if Republicana don’t cede power or?
I’m saying they should do the exact same thing trump did and will face no consequences for and see how the Republicans respond in turn.
You want them to simultaneously seem like hypocrites AND idiots?
To what end? Funsies?
They would be exposing the hypocrites. They already look look like fucking morons for losing to trump, again, so not much to salvage there. Tell me any American could not miss the message when democrats stop the confirmation, roll out their own fake electors, and confirm kamala herself. Hell, have biden make it an official act because why not? Any person to object to it could not be totally lost on them this is exactly what Trump attempted to do and will not be punished for it.
Now, anyone knows this plan will fall flat. That’s not how these things work. It would just stir the pot so brilliantly it might actually get the little brain cell they are guarding to light up.
Yeah, it signals to every both sider that they were right all along, and all the people they’ve been prosthelytizing to might actually start believing them.
If you want to be on the side of democracy, you don’t just decide to stop being democratic unless you’ve given up.
You’re not going to solve anything by playing by their rules, you’re only going to galvanize them. They are the party of “government doesn’t work”, doing this just gives them more ammo.
The government doesn’t work if one side can break the law and walk away scott free and if the other side does the same exact thing they have consequences. What’s there left to argue at that point?
Maybe we should have a peaceful takeover of the Capital on Jan 6, it’s very cool and very legal after all
It would be a way to show that the DNC actually cares.
