• @edgemaster72
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    681 month ago

    I’m not a fan of Win 7/8 being called “ancient”

    • @SuperIce
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      551 month ago

      The tech industry moves fast. Win 7/8 are ancient in tech terms

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        Tell that to the MS Dos PCs I regularly have to maintain and provide safety to. They still live.

        • @halcyoncmdr
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          181 month ago

          Something can be ancient and still function for purpose. We’ve uncovered ancient pottery intact.

      • @Zorque
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        -11 month ago

        Something that came out last week can be considered ancient in tech terms.

        • @[email protected]
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          201 month ago

          Windows 7 is 15 years old. If it was a person it would be able to get a learners permit to drive in many states.

          It’s also been EOL for over 4 years.

          • @falidorn
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            11 month ago

            We don’t call 15 year old cars ancient. Blu rays aren’t ancient. CDs aren’t ancient. Tons of things are 15 years old and fallen out of general use but aren’t considered ancient.

            I’d argue that XP is ancient but not Win7.

            • @colderr
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              71 month ago

              Blu rays and CDs are considered ancient. Considering all the storage we have now, something like a CD is close to worthless for almost everyone. Blu rays could have their own niche still, but it’s still considered ancient by modern standards. Technology evolves so fast, and it’s hard to keep up.

              • @falidorn
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                51 month ago

                I call shenanigans. Blu rays still make up most of physical sales and that video quality makes up the most consumed resolution.

                I can kinda see the argument for CDs but they are still sold new in big name B&M stores. “Close to worthless” is hyperbole at the very least.

                • @colderr
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                  61 month ago

                  Just because they are still sold doesn’t mean that they are not ancient.

                  You can still buy, for example, a GT 1030, which, compared to more modern graphics cards, is considered ancient.

                  Just because something is still being sold or bought doesn’t mean that it’s not ancient.

            • @[email protected]
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              71 month ago

              Cars have an expected lifespan of like 20 years, operating systems don’t.

              Windows 7 came out with very early support for efi boot which took explicit effort to get to work. At this point most OEM machines out there don’t even support the legacy booting mode. That is ancient by tech standards.

      • @[email protected]
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        71 month ago

        But the kernel going 3.11 and not stopping at 3.10 was just yesterday… merely 10 years ago.

    • @[email protected]
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      161 month ago

      Sytems that don’t receive security patches anymore well deserve that title. You’d hardly keep it airgapped if you care about Steam updates.

  • burghler
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    271 month ago

    What value is there to using windows 7 nowadays. I genuinely don’t understand

  • @_bcron_
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    171 month ago

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    • @woelkchen
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      161 month ago

      Personally, I dislike that Nobara is relying on patched Mesa and kernel versions. This is unnecessary risk of instability. AFAIK Bazzite doesn’t do that.

  • @AnUnusualRelic
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    41 month ago

    There wasn’t even a DOS 5 version of Steam ☹️

  • @[email protected]
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    31 month ago

    Friendly Reminder: You can install any KDE based Linux distribution and probably have an equivalent or better experience with security and regular steam updates.

    Compatibility isn’t really an excuse in this case, as Windows 7/8 will no longer be compatible with the most troubling games anyway. You’d be best off on a modern system with proper security patches.

      • @[email protected]
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        -11 month ago

        And yet it is just fine for your banking institutions, and a surprising amount of government machines.

        I think it is just lovely on my media PC in my living room.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              Not sure what you mean, but I’ve never seen a banking or government machine that was raw-dogging the internet.
              They’re behind a firewall, a web filter, a content deconstructor, a hyperlink sandbox and an endpoint protection where processes need to be white-listed to run.

              In such a setting, it may be safe to still run Windows 7 for some tasks, but it won’t be for browsing and email.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 month ago

                Not sure how its done in your country, but there are very much windows 7 machines here “raw dogging” the internet. Its more about risk management then anything.

                I mean we are in a world where right now the security solutions are worse then the risk of attack. Right now attacks are done mainly with social engineering and the new systems make bonzi buddy look tame.

                There is little point punishing my self by changing my windows 7 machine that I like just so that I can change out old vulnerabilities with new ones. I swear software fear mongering runs half the industry right now on nothing other then inertia.