In the end, I see Red Hat’s behavior as a net win for the open source community. It’s going to drive Linux innovation harder. Ironically, the is a net loss for Red Hat. It’s a serious self-inflicted wound.
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@dontcarebear @ylai Debian is hard to beat… Screw corporate Linux… Stick with tried and true distros like Debian & everything will be sweet…
Yes, community distros are the way to go, at least for private use. Companies might need certifications not available for e.g. Debian.
I was using Fedora happily for quite a while until I tried NixOS, and now I’m really glad about not having to worry about acquisitions or corporate decisions. Though my mums laptop runs Fedora Silverblue just fine and will continue to do so for the forseeable future. Fedora is community driven, but it is tied to RH to some degree.
I think I’ll be checking out OpenSuse. They haven’t been controversial lately afaik and just keep doing their thing.
In my eyes my problem with moving to SUSE or Ubuntu is that it’s the same thing. A corporation backed or straight up corporation developed and owned distro still has ONE failure point. Right now SUSE are “the good guys”, but what if they get bought? What if there’s a new CEO? What if they suddenly just decide to abuse their power? Then you’re simply screwed. Red Hat were also seen as “one of the good guys” some months ago, but the way things work, companies always end up pivoting towards what makes them more money. Them being ethical is nothing but a luxury that happens if they can afford it and if we are lucky.
I’m moving to Debian once I get my new PC.
I used to think that Fedora being ultimately backed by IBM would give them stability. Then Redhat dismissed Tom Cotton, who was a key OSS liaison, and now it seems to be embarrassing itself with this bitterly hostile attitude towards everyone in the RHEL orbit. It’s been so out-of-character that most people initially assumed this was IBM leaning on RHEL. But it apparently was not. Then my Fedora installation choked on what seemed like a pretty ordinary kernel update and stopped booting.
It felt like a signal. I settled on EndeavourOS, and it’s been an all-around improvement. Nvidia drivers are optionally baked in, the AUR (which EOS also bakes in) is ten times what Copr could ever hope to be, and pacman is ridiculously speedy (though I suppose anything is faster than DNF). I know EOS will sometimes break, as is tradition for rolling releases, but I’m confident that Arch will at least keep being Arch for many years to come.
That’s the thing with 100% community backed distros. There’s never any drama, there’s never any controversial decisions, the most you’ll hear of is some leader figure being replaced or not treating others well. Honestly it’s what Linux should be in the first place.
Whenever you use “RedHat”, replace it with “IBM”, as that’s who they really are now. Tech companies to avoid (imho) are IBM and Oracle, both of who have linux distros.
Until Canonical or SUSE become evil (unlikely), or are bought by an industry evil, then you’re better off.
I mean, in my eyes Canonical is already evil. SUSE is pretty nice right now, but like I said, them being nice is nothing but a luxury. There’s no guarantee it wont happen, and you could probably argue it’s fated to happen eventually.
The amount of 👎, 🤡, 💩, and 🤦♂️ emojis on that CentOS Stream PR is so funny to me! Basically every comment the RedHat guy made was like that
The group known for going against the grain, and intentionally looking for alternatives. Are going against the grain and looking for alternatives.
How unexpected.
If I was a business customer of Rocky, I would not sleep well knowing what kind of sketchy backdoor way they use to keep their distro alive… Alma however seems to be doing it properly and they will actually create a benefit to the open source community this way.
they’re doing what they need to. it’s not sketchy. it’s not like they fired up a bittorrent search for ‘rhel sources’ and took the first results (ru, cn, probably) they found.
but i’d rather they just blatantly subscribed to rhel, downloaded all the sources directly, stripped their branding out, packaged alma, and dared ibm to go after them.
