I can’t wait for the spectacular implosion

  • @Xenny
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    87 days ago

    I thought we were supposed to get like protocol droids with AI. We just get protocols that steal all our data.

  • Th4tGuyII
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    718 days ago

    I think AI tools have (and will have) their uses, but AI as a whole has been hyped up so much for so long now that the bubble is bound to burst sooner or later.

    And when it does, hopefully we can go back to not having AI shoved into every fucking thing imaginable…

    No I don’t want an AI on my phone or computer trawling through all my data for you, just to give me some handy search feature I almost certainly won’t use.

    • db0OP
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      388 days ago

      I expect a creative destruction, like what happened with the dotcom bubble. A ton of GenAI companies will go bust and the market will be flooded with cheap GPUs and other AI hw which will be snapped on the cheap, and enthusiasts and researches will use them to make actually useful stuff.

      • David GerardM
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        these are compute GPUs that don’t even have graphics ports

        • db0OP
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          157 days ago

          Yes, my point is that the compute from those chips can still be used. Maybe on actually useful machine learning tools that will be developed latter, or some other technology which might make use of parallel computing like this.

          • Jack Riddle
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            57 days ago

            I know of at least one company that uses cuda for ray-tracing for I believe ground research, so there is definitely already some usefull things happening.

            I mean there are a lot of applications for linear algebra, although I admit I don’t fully know in what way “AI” uses linear algebra and what other uses overlap with it.

    • @[email protected]
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      378 days ago

      I might want an ai on my computer, but only if it is a local, open source model that does not report any kind of data to outside parties in any way.

      • Th4tGuyII
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        208 days ago

        If that were the case, and it was something I chose, I certainly wouldn’t mind it anywhere near as much - but the ones being forced upon you by every tech company alive right now are none of those things, and are all data harvesters disguised as utilities.

          • @[email protected]
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            57 days ago

            The comment literally said that they might want an AI matching llama’s description and so linked them to a community on the same site that is relevant to their potential desires

            That’s the whole goddamn point of sites like this

            • @[email protected]
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              27 days ago

              look I know primary-school reading comprehension isn’t everyone’s favourite class but it shouldn’t be too hard to see the vast difference between the sentences “hmm does anyone have a link for some local llm stuff I can run on my own computers?” and “I might maybe want something like this, but defs only if it’s local and generally well-behaved and doesn’t snitch on me”

              and no, you doing a driveby comment while completely misunderstanding context is definitely not the point of this sub. we have stackoverflow at home.

              • Cethin
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                -37 days ago

                The fact that multiple people sent you links for learning more proves it’s you who can’t understand it.

                • @[email protected]
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                  57 days ago

                  holy fuck. since I guess it’s the week when people wander in here and don’t understand fuck about shit:

                  we don’t want your stupid shit on our lemmy instance. none of us like the tech you’re in here pushing, even the openwashed version. now fuck off.

              • @[email protected]
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                -37 days ago

                look I know primary-school reading comprehension isn’t everyone’s favourite class but it shouldn’t be too hard to see the vast difference between the sentences “hmm does anyone have a link for some local llm stuff I can run on my own computers?” and “I might maybe want something like this, but defs only if it’s local and generally well-behaved and doesn’t snitch on me”

                Again: one does not need to explicitly ask for a link to something for someone to reply with a relevant one, welcome to link aggregation websites

                and no, you doing a driveby comment while completely misunderstanding context is definitely not the point of this sub

                Providing more and relevant information on a topic by pinking elsewhere on this site is actually the point of the comment section on sites like this and is very normal

                • @[email protected]
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                  67 days ago

                  you keep saying “this site” like you have exactly zero understanding of how any of this works, and on other days I would bet that’s probably right. but today I’ve taken a great couple of photos so instead I’m just going to forget that you posted and have a beer instead

                  (also: lol)

      • @cm0002
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        18 days ago

        That’s where I’m at to, I like the concept of an AI analyzing all my files for easier reference (especially since it’s a disorganized mess lol) but only local and open source.

    • blaue_Fledermaus
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      138 days ago

      They are neat tools, if looked at realistically. They certainly don’t deserve to be called AI. I like to call them High Coherence Media Transformers.

    • Optional
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      238 days ago

      AI has already taken tens of thousands of jobs. Which it’s not doing still.

      I hope all the creative teams that got sacked because the idiot CEO blew ten years worth of capital on an AI gamble hold out for C-suite pay to return.

    • @phoneymouse
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      78 days ago

      Feed that picture into ChatGPT and ask it to explain the joke

        • @[email protected]
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          88 days ago

          it seems like you’ve had the joke fly right over your head

          but then given your apparent predilection towards wanting outsourced thinking, the notion of using your own head must weigh far too heavy

        • @phoneymouse
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          -18 days ago

          The original post was basically suggesting that AI won’t be smart enough to replace humans because it gets basic things wrong like showing salmon filets in a river instead of actual live salmon. However, when you feed this picture to chatGPT, an AI itself, it very much can discern the difference between the two, refuting the premise of the original post and suggesting that actually we are at risk of being replaced by AI.

              • @phoneymouse
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                I’ll fill you in. If you’re like me, you found this post in your general feed. Apparently, these folks seem to forget that lemmy is federated. Mostly people on Lemmy are good-natured, but it seems we’ve stumbled into a community of “edgy” folks who are smarter than you and I (ie. bitchy, sourpusses) and like to be negative about some “mainstream” tech news. Because these folks are smarter than us, they REALLY didn’t like it when we did some basic research and inadvertently refuted the basic premise the top poster was advancing with his image of AI messing something up – which is that AI is bad and most technologists are big dumb idiots. And while we’re at it, so are you if you don’t join them in making any comment, bad faith or not, against whatever the trending tech topic of the day is. Below me, is a comment from mod David Gerard encouraging this kind of toxicity, who apparently makes his living complaining about trendy tech topics despite selling merch through the same tech companies that make the tech he finds so awful. Anyway, I have no real energy over it. I wouldn’t call myself a techno-optimist. But, I do find insufferable cunts to be insufferable. Apparently, this instance also hosts a community called “sneerclub,” which David Gerard moderates and its entire purpose is just mocking people. It’s interesting when you turn over a rock and find some truly ugly people. All the better when you can block them, so you don’t have to encounter them again.

              • @phoneymouse
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                The guy is an idiot troll. Ignore him.

    • kn0wmad1c
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      18 days ago

      The one thing LLMs will always be better at doing than humans is pattern detection.

      Incidentally, the best job suited to their capability to detect patterns in large amounts of data is doing what CEOs currently do

  • Cyrus Draegur
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    I for one can’t wait for Dan Olson (Folding Ideas) to do a feature length deep dive takedown of it soon :D

    • @Draces
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      -118 days ago

      That’d be a lot nicer than Ed Zitron non-stop unthinking whiny critique. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

      • @[email protected]
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        32 days ago

        don’t think I’ve ever heard someone I agree with being so unpleasant to listen to

        Sending this to EZ so that he can put it as his by-line

      • @[email protected]
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        as someone who grew up in an “old timey” baptist church, I am 100% comfortable with someone yelling things at me that I agree with, but ymmv.

        • @Draces
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          -48 days ago

          Yeah, preaching emotions over critical thought sounds like better offline. I literally cancelled my premium Spotify because they didn’t give me a way to stop that show from auto playing after behind the bastards

        • @Draces
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          -48 days ago

          Do you have a point to make?

            • @Draces
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              -47 days ago

              That Ed Zitron is unpleasant and Dan Olson would do a much better job making the same point. What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do? Ed Zitron isn’t trying to convince anyone, he’s just whining to people that already agree with him and I find it extremely unconstructive

                • @Draces
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                  -47 days ago

                  Because I’m whining to people that agree with me or something? I don’t know what you’re trying to say because not a lot of people seem to agree with me on this so that can’t be it

              • @[email protected]
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                47 days ago

                What is this “no you” that you’re trying to do?

                the penny’s never gonna drop, is it? let me save you the embarrassment

                • @Draces
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                  17 days ago

                  Keep saying nothing. Very bold of you

      • Cyrus Draegur
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        -48 days ago

        Not quite so familiar with this Ed Zitron individual myself, but I agree that critique is best served with precision, clarity, wit, charm, and style. When someone holds a rhetorical position that is correct with regard to reality but articulates said position very poorly, it does a disservice to the discourse at large.

        People (albeit foolishly) very well might reflexively adopt an objectively false stance JUST because they don’t want to agree with someone so disagreeable.

        Or in other words, sometimes nothing makes an idea sound worse than the enthusiastic support of a moron.