The U.S. announced $345 million in military aid for Taiwan, Friday, in what is the Biden administration’s first major package drawing on America’s own stockpiles to help Taiwan counter China.

The White House’s announcement said the package would include defense, education and training for the Taiwanese. Washington will send man-portable air defense systems, or MANPADS, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, firearms and missiles, according to two U.S. officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters ahead of the announcement.

U.S. lawmakers have been pressuring the Pentagon and White House to speed weapons to Taiwan.

The goals are to help it counter China and to deter China from considering attacking, by providing Taipei enough weaponry that it would make the price of invasion too high.

While Chinese diplomats protested the move, Taiwan’s trade office in Washington said the U.S. decision to pull arms and other materiel from its stores provided “an important tool to support Taiwan’s self-defense.” In a statement, it pledged to work with the United States to maintain “peace, stability and the status quo across the Taiwan Strait.”

The package is in addition to nearly $19 billion in military sales of F-16s and other major weapons systems that the U.S. has approved for Taiwan. Delivery of those weapons has been hampered by supply chain issues that started during the COVID-19 pandemic and have been exacerbated by the global defense industrial base pressures created by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The difference is that this aid is part of a presidential authority approved by Congress last year to draw weapons from current U.S. military stockpiles ― so Taiwan will not have to wait for military production and sales. This gets weapons delivered faster than providing funding for new weapons.

The Pentagon has used a similar authority to get billions of dollars worth of munitions to Ukraine.

Taiwan split from China in 1949 amid civil war. Chinese President Xi Jinping maintains China’s right to take over the now self-ruled island, by force if necessary. China has accused the U.S. of turning Taiwan into a “powder keg” through the billions of dollars in weapons sales it has pledged.

The U.S. maintains a “One China” policy under which it does not recognize Taiwan’s formal independence and has no formal diplomatic relations with the island in deference to Beijing. However, U.S. law requires a credible defense for Taiwan and for the U.S. to treat all threats to the island as matters of “grave concern.”

Getting stockpiles of weapons to Taiwan now, before an attack begins, is one of the lessons the U.S. has learned from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Pentagon deputy defense secretary Kathleen Hicks told The Associated Press earlier this year.

Ukraine “was more of a cold-start approach than the planned approach we have been working on for Taiwan, and we will apply those lessons,” Hicks said. Efforts to resupply Taiwan after a conflict erupted would be complicated because it is an island, she said.

China regularly sends warships and planes across the center line in the Taiwan Strait that provides a buffer between the sides, as well as into Taiwan’s air defense identification zone, in an effort to intimidate the island’s 23 million people and wear down its military capabilities.

Liu Pengyu, a spokesman for China’s embassy in Washington, said in a statement Friday that Beijing was “firmly opposed” to U.S. military ties with Taiwan. The U.S. should “stop selling arms to Taiwan” and “stop creating new factors that could lead to tensions in the Taiwan Strait,” Liu said. (AP)

  • @lemmyshmemmy
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    Good. The Taiwanese people want and deserve freedom, not oppression from the CCP.

    • Hogger85b
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      yep. I know couple hong kongers since mid 2000s that are so glad they escaped in early 2000s as despite promises in 1999, they knew mainland would force through. (I originally thought some of the racist people I knew was their approach to mainlanders, but last 10 years maybe they had a point)

    • vlad
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      2210 months ago

      Don’t forget the current Myanmar “leadership”.

      • @ryannathans
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        1110 months ago

        There’s a lot of people to fuck, can’t list them all

      • @[email protected]
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        2210 months ago

        Stretch before you reach, friend. Giving a country a massive amount of weapons to defend its own borders is far from imperialism.

        • @[email protected]
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          -310 months ago

          You gotta admit tho america with Ukraine on Russia and tiawan on china, america has any superpower by the balls militarily.

          Just look what america did to Cuba when in a similar position, sure they’re the lesser of 2 evils - but far from the good guys

          • @nomadjoanne
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            710 months ago

            America sucks in many ways. But I support helping Taiwan in any way we can.

            • @[email protected]
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              210 months ago

              As did the Russians to Cuba, and ignoring the imperialistic benefit of their ally to america is borderlining intentional ignorance. A great counterexample to your argument is the age old Nazi bar analogy; you own a bar and let Nazis in, youre just gonna attract more - before long you’ll just be known as the Nazi bar.

              (but tbh not in a way one should entirely blame themselves for cause that’s what these global superpowers capotilizes on, being the lesser of 2 evils then reaping the benefits of everything)

        • @[email protected]
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          Nah, imperialism is about power and influence in general, not just direct military force.

          Ever heard of proxy wars?

  • @SaakoPaahtaa
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    Lets gooo! Taiwanese indepence in non-negotiable.

  • @Nogami
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    Removed by mod

    • @[email protected]
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      For context we’ve been selling weapons to Taiwan for decades. The lip service we pay china on the subject is just kayfabe.

      • @Nogami
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        It’s nice that it’s out in the open now. Let’s China know it’s place and that everyone is tired of their shit.

        • @[email protected]
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          It’s been out in the open for a long time. Taiwan has many naval ships that were ex-us Navy that were sold to it, in addition to fighter jets, missile systems etc.

          This is nothing new, just business as usual along with the usual China “final warning.”

          • @Nogami
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            It’s also being made into a news item now instead of just a sale between nations. They’re definitely using this as a non subtle warning to China.

    • Nix
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      “The civilized world” has the strongest stench of white supremacy wow. I don’t understand why you would feel comfortable saying that

      • @Nogami
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        Since some easily ruffled $0.50 mod erased my post let me explain. Anytime someone does something China doesn’t like they immediately cry racism about it.

        It’s all bullshit and we all know it.

        It’s long past time for the world to stop putting up with China’s crap and let them know they’ll be entirely cut off from the world if they can’t learn to play nice.

        Oh look, I’m being brigaded by downvote bots, it’s just so pathetic.

  • @chk232
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    So that’s what, 2 plans and a dozen missiles?

    Jokes aside, US seriously need to do something about their entire budget going into military contractors pockets or they are going to lose the economic war.

    • @Techmaster
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      We’re going to run out of people able to fight our wars if we don’t start taking care of our people.

  • @ScottThePoolBoy
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    510 months ago

    America imports everything from China. Sells it to Americans. Collects sales tax. Sends money to Taiwan to fight China.

  • @UmbrellAssassin
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    Yay. Another tax hike. How about you fix America first before giving out all it’s money to situations that shouldn’t involve you.

    • @[email protected]
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      These are weapons that were sitting in stockpiles and we’re never going to be used. We either give them away or we have to pay money to destroy them.

      Hell, the boneyard currently has something like 10,000 mothballed aircraft, including fighters, bombers, attack helicopters etc sitting in the desert waiting for the next war or to be disassembled.

      • @Ecksell
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        mothbald

        Is there a BoneAppleTea subscription available here yet?

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s the good old speech to text Google system for you. Doesn’t always work well. Lol

      • @postmateDumbass
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        But because we gave away the old weapons, now we have to go buy new ones to replace them!

        The Circle Of Life.

        • @[email protected]
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          We already ate, that was already budgeted because the old weapons are obsolete.

          Have you even heard of the F-35?

          • @postmateDumbass
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            $345 million won’t buy for a single F-35.

            And the aid package is ground based defense, manpads, and maybe f16s. Not the top of the line.

            All of the hardware aid we give needs to be restocked. That is how being prepared works.

    • @gmtom
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      I miss the days of lemmy before all thr low effort trolls and brain damaged chuds decided to inflict themselves upon us.

      • @[email protected]
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        410 months ago

        Ok, so it really is getting worse. Thought maybe it was just me getting easily annoyed.

      • @UmbrellAssassin
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        I thought on average the people on here had a few more brain cells than other toxic ass places on the internet. Don’t know if it’s the reddit influx or people are just more likely to say how they really feel when other people parrot the same ridicules bullshit as them. Either way I’m pretty disappointed.

    • @Zuberi
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      410 months ago

      You do recognize this is the current ruling class protecting the rich’s access to cheap semiconductors right?

      Like, why would they “fix” what is obviously not broken in their eyes?

      • @UmbrellAssassin
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        If you’re talking about the chip “shortage”, you know those mostly created in China right? Anyway that is completely not I was taking about.

        • @Zuberi
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          Mostly created in Taiwan you dork, not China.

          • @UmbrellAssassin
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            Most is really overexaggerating. But cool. Just only parrot the things you read online that align with what you want to believe.

            • @[email protected]
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              Some of us actually work in the industry, but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

            • @actualhater
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              Yeah, real free thinkers parrot ideas they came up with themselves! Tired of the stupid idiots on this site bringing their own “knowledge” and “insight” and “journalism” to the table. They’re all toxic and wrong!

              • @UmbrellAssassin
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                Journalism is the last thing that comes to mind reading some of these replies.

        • @[email protected]
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          Most computer chips are not made in China. They are made in Taiwan. Not only that, but the United States also has a considerable semiconductor manufacturing capability.

          You may have heard of this small company called “Intel.” Or AMD. But perhaps not.

          https://www.industryselect.com/blog/top-10-semiconductor-manufacturers-in-the-us

          The chips act will also accelerate semiconductor manufacturing in the United States. It’s already had a pretty significant impact.

          https://www.semiconductors.org/the-chips-act-has-already-sparked-200-billion-in-private-investments-for-u-s-semiconductor-production/

          Anyway, it’s a little ironic for somebody posting on the internet to be complaining about “wealthy people and their semiconductors” when the semiconductor industry has been the largest democratizing force in human history. What do you think you’re typing on?

          • @UmbrellAssassin
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            If you actually read, you’d see that I didn’t start the conversation talking about rich people or semi conductors. The only thing I said is that I’m tired of paying more taxes because all our social security money is being sent to other places as though we don’t need it.

            • @actualhater
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              If you actually read the article you’d see that this money was already set aside in a previous tax cut

              • @UmbrellAssassin
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                Why does that matter? It doesn’t. You are still paying for it.

                • @actualhater
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                  The thing about moving goalposts online is that you can still see your original comment: “another tax hike”

                  Hmmm

    • @[email protected]
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      ? Who? China?

      edit: yooo, i just got bot downvoted by 16 on almost all my posts/comments, China mad.

      • @SandLight
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        Consider it a brand of honor.

        • @[email protected]
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          went from like +300 fake points to -600. hurt worse than it should :’)

          edit: it’s still ongoing, every post now starts with a net -7 vote, i think i’ll start adding a disclaimer on all my new comments lol

          • vlad
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            Just ignore them. They’ve got nothing better to do while waiting in the bread line.

            • flipht
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              Fuck the CCP, but the US also has bread lines. We call it food stamps and make grocery stores deal with it.

              But like 12.6% of our population (41.9 / 331.9) is on it, not counting people who don’t qualify and have to rely only on food banks, soup kitchens, etc.

              • vlad
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                Oh yeah, I’m in the US and it’s far from perfect. But I was born in Russia, so I can’t really complain because it’s better than being forced into a war by a Putin.

          • quortez
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            If it helps you feel better kbin.social doesn’t seem to apply those suspicious votes

          • livus
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            Must only be on your instance, it doesn’t have that from where I’m viewing you. This comment I’m replying to is at 7 upvotes and 0 downvotes.

          • @SaakoPaahtaa
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            Getting internetpoint shagged by commies is never not funny

              • @SaakoPaahtaa
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                Bwahaha oh shit look at that. My sunset comment is on +4, -4, jury’s still out whether or not sunsets are reactionary

      • livus
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        I don’t see how bot downvoting even works here.

        It’s not anonymous. We can literally see the usernames of everyone who downvotes you.

          • livus
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            ActivityPub is pretty transparent, so it’s publicly available in theory.

            Not sure how you get to it on Lemmy but on kbin we just look at “activity” on a comment or post and it tells us who upvoted or downvoted it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Literally not. Most of the worlds semiconductor manufacturing happens in Taiwan and you need semiconductors for damn near anything electronic these days. China knows that and won’t risk it. Not to mention the economic hell that going to war with the US would cause.

      • @nomadjoanne
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        I had always wondered about the semiconductor. So many Taiwanese firms.

    • EnderWi99in
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      Yeah China should maybe consider not invading Taiwan. If anything it should be the other way around. Taiwan IS China. The CCP are an illegitimate government anyway.

    • @[email protected]
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      110 months ago

      The best defense is a capable offense. Sitting on a golden egg with your pants around your ankles is the best way to get robbed.

    • @SaakoPaahtaa
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      Hey dude I haven’t been getting my downvotes lately, please fix it you dirty commie fuck

        • @SaakoPaahtaa
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          When I joined in on this convo commies started to bot my account. It’s since stopped. Fix it you dirty commie fuck, can’t you do anything right?

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            Why tf would I have anthing to do with that?

            If you just go around calling every leftist a “dirty commie fuck” and throwing around baseless accusations it’s no wonder you pissed off someone at some point.

            But if you’re that salty, Lemmy’s upvote system is public afaik, so those downvoting bots should be traceable. I imagine that if you reach out to them they’d be very much obliged to comply with your request.