Oh God they wanna be wizards so bad. I have the magic scroll, I said the magic words, so you can’t touch me now.
between this and handjob boebert wanting to abolish the ATF… like, what do they really envision? mad max? can I strap a grenade launcher to my roof rack and claim traffic was threatening me?
Pretty sure it’d still be illegal and someone would eventually shoot you. ATF just shoots your dog before they shoot you because they can’t tell the difference between a carbine pistol chambered in 5.56 with a wrist brace and a short barreled rifle.
I mean, they’re almost functionally identical, but that’s what happens when there’s an arms race between gun makers skirting illegality by technicality and the atf trying to plug gaps. Either way though, dog shot.
a carbine pistol chambered in 5.56 with a wrist brace and a short barreled rifle.
see this bullshit right here…
mate, the 5.56 wrist braced ‘pistol’ is built with the same fucking 5.56 receiver, you’ve cut down a rifle for specious and bullshit reasons to evade legislation that was stupid in the first place.
all built on the absurd idea that we need a heavily armed populace to reduce crime. this shit should have ended in the 90s. people don’t need combat loads to protect their homes. the hysterical demands of an society deranged by arms manufacturers.
local yokel pd is much more likely to shoot your dog than a fed.
I feel like you didn’t read the second half of my comment.
I feel like you didn’t comprehend my response. It’s certainly a direct reply to the entire thing - but the gun nuts dissatisfied with the ATF literally put the ATF in that impossible position through chickenshit legislation and lack of oversight - but you use it as an excuse to blame these overworked underfunded feds with shooting your dog.
You’re angry the atf plugged the gaps, I’m angry guntwats keep pushing for combat weapons in civil society.
WE ARE NOT THE SAME.
You’re angry the atf plugged the gaps
They didn’t. The gun manufacturers are the ones thriving in the wiggle room. Though I am slightly tickled that if I put a foregrip on an actual handgun, I’m suddenly a felon because it magically becomes not a handgun.
sorry, should have said attempted to plug the gaps, or plugged the gaps ineffectively resulting in this.
man I’m just prior service enough to realize I don’t want full battle rattle on the streets in my home country. ain’t how I grew up. it’s… fucking disgusting how this worship of firepower has made school shootings a leading cause of child death.
I can’t fathom how anyone can look at that, understand a quantum of logistics, and not realize - more guns aren’t helping.
I enjoy firearms, I dig the engineering involved with making a working, reliable platform but never forget - they’re tools to kill and maim and the fetishization of gun culture has hurt this country irreparably.
I like how he cares about the paperwork for the gun, but the paperwork for the car is easily bipassed by magic SovCit jargon.
It’s fun to laugh at sovcits and I know we’re dealing with unreliable narrators, but I think there’s some legitimacy to this person’s objections about their treatment by police. Trying to seize the gun in TX is a big one to me.
It’s been a long time since I had to deal with texas laws about firearms, but I think there is a clause about having a handgun/firearm while in commission of another crime. Yup, here’s the relevant one. Then there’s the plate one which is what triggers that ‘other than… Class C’ part of the first one, since having a fictitious plate is a Class B.
So basically, the seizure they’re doing is legal, although as we all know, *cough cough*, legal ain’t always right.
I don’t disagree that credit is a joke of a system, that people should be treated poorly by police or anything, but still they’re pretty bonkers and also dangerous. One killed a cop in Dallas a couple of months ago.
It’s an interesting intersection between a sense of entitlement, thinking legalese is like magic spells where if you use the right words you get what you want, and police/government overreach plus late stage capitalism making people think they need something like that to get what they feel they are entitled to.
It’s almost always people who have lost their license due to multiple DUIs.
I am someone who politically thinks all our needs should be met because we pay taxes. My motto is give everybody everything, to quote the poet Bernadette Meyer. But sovcits just have very strange ideas.
I told my kids to…
Surprise! Kids in the car got to see their father get his just deserts. Officers may have even made a CPS report, as a cherry on top. Sovereign Citizens love CPS cases, I’ve heard.
This guy’s an idiot, the sister is an idiot, I really feel for those kids.
I mean, how do we know the sister is an idiot? Posting bond for a family member is understandable. Unless they’re violent or dangerous, and frankly, this sovcit doesn’t seem like that. A fool, and suckered in by some real hucksters who are hawking him a product that will hurt him, but not a danger.
Doing double the speed limit with your kids in the car is not a danger?
Can’t wait to hear how you justify this.Okay, you know, that’s fair. I personally detest speeding because it is a danger. However, I feel that we are speaking of two different meanings of the word here, and my meaning of the word danger is much different in regards to whether or not someone should be bonded out.
It could be an accident. I got pulled over because I was just cruising around the loop in my town on a Friday with my cruise control set at the speed limit.
At the time, my college didn’t have school on Fridays, so as I passed the school I asked myself, “why are there so many cars when there’s no school?” Then I saw the lights.
I still maintain that the school zone lights came on after I entered the zone since the school busses weren’t even lined up yet, but I was driving at a safe speed for the road itself.
The cop thought so too, since I only got a ticket for 55 in a 35 instead of in a school zone.
Bro somehow found the one good cop
Alright, I’ll buy this highly specific scenario.
You’re right. ACAB. I was flippantly feeling judgy. Sorry!
Yeah man those kids are gonna think cops are the good guys after seeing them fuck up their dad over
A fucking speeding ticket.
Cops could have just given him a ticket and let him go.
Can’t give someone a ticket when they refuse to give you their name and DOB. Know your rights, and hold the police accountable, but if you intentionally antagonize and resist the police when they make a very basic and very legal request, you’re immediately on the hook for more charges.
Yes, you can. You ticket the registered owner. This is how parking tickets work.
He didn’t have a valid tag. Seems likely the car isn’t registered.
Right. In this case, it might not have worked. But my point was that the statement that you can’t give someone a ticket without first getting their personal info is incorrect.
A moving violation and a parking ticket are totally different things. A speeding ticket is a criminal offense while a parking ticket (with rare exception) is a civil offense. The police absolutely cannot issue a speeding ticket without ascertaining your identity, and if you refuse to identify yourself, you will end up in jail while they work it out.
Let him keep driving with a fake license plate? At minimum the car should be towed.
Sovcits are funny and all but we don’t need to lick boots about it
This isn’t licking boots, this is laughing about someone FAFO.
If someone walked up to a cop and said, “guess what, I just robbed that bank over there but I have diplomatic immunity and here’s my International Citizen card” and the cop cuffed him and took him down to the station, I’d laugh at that person too.
This is basically the driving equivalent.
Hahaha yeah, let’s laugh at the dad getting thrown around in front of his kids because his papers were wrong. Cops should immediately resort to physical violence when someone is dumb and annoying. Speeding is the same as a bank robbery, after all
You’re twisting the facts so hard to fit your narrative here, it’s really dishonest and makes people take your view on cops a lot less seriously.
- gun with no papers
- no plates
- no drivers’ license
- speeding
- sovcit bullshit
- resisting arrest / commands when told that you are being arrested
- resisting arrest by fighting the cop and trying to lock a door to a literal death machine
- story told by an unreliable narrator that “magically” did everything right
It’s called “the consequences of your actions”. But oh, would someone please think of the childriiiiin :(
I will laugh at him. He’s a dumbass and he found out what happens when you’re a dumbass in front of a cop. It’s not about the cop. It’s about the dumbass being a dumbass.
Also, it’s east texas. He’s lucky they didn’t toss some meth in the car and get him on that.
So you think because he shat out some crotchgoblins he is exempt of being a criminal?
Do you also think Trump is innocent because he is a father?
Ok let me break it down with crayons because apparently y’all don’t understand that multiple things can be true at the same time:
- Sovcit in OP is stupid, annoying, and wrong.
- Cops in the US are aggressive, violent, and love to escalate
- We don’t have an accurate account of what happened
Given the above, maybe we don’t have to give the cops the benefit of the doubt and assume that whatever they did to him was necessary and justified?
The only good guys in this story are the kids, who were probably traumatized by the experience.
The “victim” here is the one telling the story guy. But you’re right, we don’t have all the facts, but we have some. Like him not obeying lawful commands and getting arrested for it, which he admitted to. He broke the law and you wanna go at the cops for holding him accountable, literally doing their job. You blame the stove for your bad tasting food too?
What benefit of the doubt? This is literally the guy’s side of the story.
Surely you realize that this is more than simply having “wrong papers” right?
Guy shouldn’t be a dad.
Questionnaire? LOL! That’s a new one!
I’m guessing even most “I don’t get paid enough for this shit” cops would say that went too far.
I’ve actually seen them do something like this before, I’ll see if I can find it, where they try and get the cop to sign a form they made.
ESH except maybe those unfortunate kids
Policeman wasn’t having any of that shit that day
If you’re wondering about the firearm charge:
prohibits anyone involved in criminal activity from carrying in a vehicle or watercraft.
That part I assume?
I’m not saying the Texas government is stupid, but a watercraft is a type of vehicle.
Laws can sometimes use different definitions for things than laymen, and according to Texan law
(23) “Vehicle” means a device that can be used to transport or draw persons or property on a highway.
