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Time for some honey BBQ eagle, baby
Why do people ever ask this stupid question? They didn’t ride the eagles because they aren’t stupid and didn’t want to get shot out of the sky and immediately captured.
The actual weakness in the story is this vague “can’t actually use my magic except sometimes lol no further questions” stuff with Gandalf.
Birds can fly over 10km above ground level. Presumably mythical magical eagles could go even higher. Nobody’s shooting them down with a bow or possibly even seeing them till they reach their destination and divebomb the volcano.
Last time the Valar intervened it almost destoyed the world, and from then on they said they wouldn’t intervene. The people of middle earth would have to do it.
Once Sauron was defeated they weren’t intervening in a conflict anymore. Same for Gandalf using just a bit of magic, the Istari were sent to guide, not to use their powers and do it themselves. Gandalf is the only one to cheat and use his magic to help.
My eagle take is that stories are supposed to be about what actually (fictionally) happened rather than the most optimally efficient way they could have. The eagles simply didn’t deign to get involved until they did.
The problem is that it wasn’t addressed. Had someone suggested it at the council and Gandalf gave a reason it wouldn’t have become an endless meme.
Everyone there knew about the eagles. The eagles had even helped in the petty squabbles between dwarves and men a few years earlier at LakeTown / Dale.
I refuse to believe the eagles didn’t know what was going down and could intervene at any time. When they showed up they weren’t like “bruh why didn’t you call us sooner”
The point is still that the rings whereabouts was best left unknown to as many people as possible. Just flying into Mordor on an eagle would have essentially just delivered the ring to Sauron for free. The eagles could have been involved elsewhere, sure, but the story is the story.
I need you to fly these hobbits to mount doom.
why … oh.
no further questions.
No, fuck this shit, you’re on your own old man.
The reason given in the books is that the Valar shouldn’t intervene anymore, last time it almost destroyed everything.
The Istari weren’t meant to do magic / go after sauron themselves either. Most of them did nothing.
Eagles were messengers, not Valar. If they could meddle in a war over some treasure, then they could certainly meddle to save all of Middle Earth.
Manwe is the one who sends them though, and he’s a valar.
I don’t remember if it’s in the Silmarillion or LOTR but they specifically say they arent going to interfere anymore because last time it sunk a continent
The dwarves weren’t fighting Valar/Maiar
If Gandalf tells Gimli to pass on a message, that doesn’t make Gimli a Maiar.
Thats a dumb comparison. Gandalf didnt make gimli nor does he control him, and how is passing a message the same as literally carrying the ring into the fire?.. fighting off nazgul?
I guess some people will just never get it and we can keep the meme alive.
Eagles fought at the battle of 5 armies!
If they got involved for a minor events, they could have gotten involved for an important event. Surely those at the council, having known about the Eagles at the battle a few decades earlier, would have suggested it.
Again the problem is that no reason was given despite the Hobbit showing it was a possibility.
fighting off nazgul?
“The Eagles appeared in great numbers at the Battle of the Morannon, helping to fight against the Nazgûl.”
Wow, this asks so many questions…
And yes, I am fully aware of what I just said.:-P
Seems like a repost from the other LOTR memes community
Yeah, we’re in the process of moving instances, from midwest to dbzer0.
Interesting, is there a reason/discussion thread about that? Looked around a bit in the instance and the community but didn’t see anything. Are you talking about migrating the official community, or just splitting it into another instance?
Interesting, is there a reason/discussion thread about that?
Discussion thread with plenty of links here: https://lemmy.world/post/22979423
TL;DR: There is some unease regarding one of the midwest admins.
Gotcha, thanks for the link!
