Hey,
Existing community rules had the following stated, leaves some room for interpretation:
“Post must have Antiwork/Work Reform explicitly involved in some capacity. This can be talking about antiwork, work reform, laws, and ext.”
In a way endless growth capitalism and just about everything that makes up a lot of US politics, the police state and the growing rise of fascism around the globe can make work seem pointless or can meaningfully contribute to a person feel trapped participating in that broken system so that they can feed their families. So in a lot of ways “talking about antiwork” can be a pretty broad topic - if that’s what the community wants it to be.
That said, there is also some literature cited in the sidebar as a basis of this specific movement. If the community wants a more narrow definition of antiwork, in alignment with one or a few of those philosophies, that can be very valuable as well.
So, what’s working in this community for you, what could be helped along with a bit more consistent attention in moderation? What do you appreciate in other “antiwork” communities around the web that you’d like to see on this instance?
The community needs the moderator(s) to not go on interviews with media, like what happened with the reddit community.
In summary, the mod went on Fox News to explain the movement and they didn’t clear this with the rest of the mods, nor did anyone think they were a good representative of the community.
https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/scsqtd/were_being_talked_about_on_fox_news/
I do remember that moment, that was quite a thing to see unfold in real time.
FWIW, I personally don’t see a reason that there would ever be such an urgency to participate in fox news’ low information at best, misinformation at worst, entertainment programming (glancing past the type of person who’s entertained by that). There’s just no angle you could consider where the producers arranging that interaction had anything but the worst intentions, and for a person with any humility, you would also have to know that as ignorant and unprepared as many of these people seem on the surface, it’s often an “every man” people’s populist act to try to get folks in red states on welfare to accept you and aspire to not be ashamed to live loud and proud as the temporarily embarrassed millionaires they always knew they were in their quiet moments. Sure, they can be humiliated and exposed by competent peers, but these are uniformly media trained, prep school and ivy league educated hate machines.
IMO, the majority of folks would have fallen in that moment, but what actually happened there was especially hard to witness. And fox was obviously the most egregious example, but I’d think about the same of any media request coming in from about any news network today. Outside of any type of previously discussed, organized and clearly shared goal that required media exposure for some reason, I don’t see why you’d want to engage with one of these organizations, especially on a taped video interview. If the community did want a statement made, at best I’d see it being something written and run by folks in the community, with a clearly stated deadline for feedback to consider.
Thank you. It’s not unique to Fox News and the like of course, so we need to stay on our toes. It only takes one mod with a slightly bigger ego than sense to get lured into this trap.
Perhaps it would be cool to share resources about what to do when it’s shown in the media or when talking to the media? I don’t think the latter will happen for a while, but at least it would help us build resources to combat the misconceptions and show people what antiwork actually means.
As you say, likely a long time until the next moment like that, if ever - that was an unprecedented rise in popularity during the “great resignation” news cycle. An even longer shot on attention with Lemmy, but agree generally - we are stronger together and should share. Clarity in strong messaging we believe in and consistency in the delivery, especially when facing adversity, is the equation in my experience.
As a mod of other communities, I’d advise a strong policy on all the “Luigi, Luigi, Luigi” stuff which seems so popular on lemmy.
It’s a fine line between supporting Luigi and advocating murder.
Thanks for the comment.
Can you please elaborate on the “strong policy” (as you describe) that you may be using in these other communities?
If someone isn’t blatantly violating stated rules for the server/community by directly advocating for specific violence against a specific person, then I’m not sure where the line would/should be - the conversation around Luigi and healthcare that is tied to employment in countries like the US, does seem somewhat relevant to this community in my personal opinion (but this is a community and maybe we don’t all feel that way?). I’d say that in my experience, CEOs make decisions, increasingly bold and not supported by data, like the RTO mandates. The result being office workers being forced to sit in traffic, be exposed to serious illness, etc, all so they can conduct zoom meetings from a cubical inside that company’s commercial real estate holdings, rather than from the comfort of their homes, near their families.
A response to that increasing and fairly unchecked hostility directly against employees in the workplace feels valid here, don’t you think?
The communities I mod take a hard line on anything promoting violence, but it’s a tough call as to what is a comment advocating it and what walks the line.
You can look at the modlog for Politics (which I mod) and News and Political Memes (which I don’t) for examples of the fires we’ve been putting out. Literal hitlists and such.
It’s tough because we all get the sentiment, but at the same time, there are top level lemmy.world policies to maintain as well.
Something like “eat the rich” or “you know why all the billionaires want to go to space? Guillotines don’t work in zero g.” are clearly jokes. But responses actually asking for murder or doxing locations or things like that… yeah…
Appreciate the expansion. I can imagine what it must be like over at Politics, 1000 yard stare…