Summary
Alibaba has launched Qwen 2.5-Max, an AI model it claims outperforms DeepSeek-V3, OpenAI’s GPT-4o, and Meta’s Llama-3.1-405B.
The release, coinciding with Lunar New Year, reflects mounting competition in China’s AI sector after DeepSeek’s rapid rise.
DeepSeek’s recent advancements have pressured Chinese rivals like ByteDance and Baidu to upgrade their models and cut prices.
DeepSeek’s founder downplays price wars, focusing on artificial general intelligence (AGI). The company’s lean, research-focused structure contrasts with China’s tech giants, which face challenges in AI innovation.
Can’t wait for Wish.com to release DickGargle 3.8-Ultra1
Well, the models start comin’ and they don’t stop comin’…
The US tech sector has just been completely disrupted. Turns out decades of slashing public education and demonizing “liberal” colleges is starting to catch up. Even Elmo himself said that H1B visas are critical because the US simply isn’t producing enough talent, but he and the other tech billionaires didn’t realize that money can’t buy everything, as they are now being shown with their pants down.
Well, the models start comin’ and they don’t stop comin’…
Got my RTX, gonna hit the ground runnin’…
Didn’t make sense just to train for fun.
Gonna steal some data it’s free to learn
I read this entire comment synced to smashmouth lmao
Get off muh swamp!
Time for my favorite GIF:
DeepSeek’s “big change” isn’t the performance of its model though; it’s that it is fully open and operates on a fraction of the resources.
Is alibaba’s model also open weights, open reasoning, free for anyone to run, and runnable (and trainable) on consumer hardware?
Call it “open weight” if you want, but it’s not “fully open”. The training data is still proprietary, and the model can’t be accurately reproduced. It’s proprietary in the same way that llama is proprietary.
But I could use it as a starting point for training and build from it with my own data. I could fork it. I couldn’t fork llama, I don’t have the weights.
You can also fork proprietary code that is source available (depending on the specific terms of that particular proprietary license), but that doesn’t make it open source.
Fair point about llama not having open weights though. So it’s not as proprietary as llama. It still shouldn’t be called open source if the training data that it needs to function is proprietary.
Oh, good. Maybe they will stop trying to scrape my websites at some ridiculous rate using faked real browser UAs. I just blocked their whole ASN (AS45102) in the end.
I thought for sure this was an Onion article
Temu is next
I already have the Temu AI psuedocode. Here you go:
10 print “Hi, how can I help?”
20 receive input
30 print “That’s awesome! What else?”
40 go to 20
Looks pretty basic to me!
Any word on the training cost? I feel like that’s the most relevant metric here.
2 Reeses Cups and a pack of ramen. Alibaba are efficient!
Oh cool, I was worried my 401k had almost sort of recovered from the last bombshell earlier this week…
DeepSeek_R1 outperform or equalzz GPT-1o is major newZ, but : 4o is much better than 1o. Now, Qwen-2.5Max outperforms GPT-4o … watever the investment involved, this is even more important ( ! ).
Are you okay?
😋 yes, why ? becauzzze of the zzZ ?
Among other things, yes.
