Hi, folks. I’m in the market for my first dry herb vape. In the past, my consumption preference has always been combusted flower in a glass bowl, but I’m a heavy enough user that the regular smoking is starting to get to me. I find edibles too unpredictable and I worry that concentrates will just shoot my tolerance to the moon (based on experience with cartridges.) This led me to consider dry herb vaping.
My wife bought an XMAX V3 (POTV edition) a while back, but hasn’t been using it regularly, so I borrowed it this week to see how I liked the experience. With some practice, I’ve been able to really enjoy using it and I’m now I’m sold on vaping and ready to make the switch away from combustion.
After a few days of research, I’m really leaning towards the Tinymight 2 for myself, but with its price, I’m hesitating. So I’m here in the hopes that someone will either push me off the cliff into vaping bliss or pull me back and push me towards a more reasonably priced alternative.
My requirements and things I like about the TM2:
Must be portable, but not necessarily in a pocketable or stealthy way. I don’t plan to just carry it around when I’m out and about, but I’d like to be able to quickly grab it to use around the house or take it to a friend’s place.
Removable batteries. I want the ability to just swap batteries and use an external charger instead of needing to plug the device in.
Power. While I am able to get good hits from the V3, it involves a long draw, steadily increasing in strength, while covering one set of air holes entirely and feathering a finger over the other set. Even then, it takes several hits to get me where I want to be. I love the idea of just taking a big rip or two and being good. I’m not really after a “session” experience most of the time.
Flexibility in use. This might just go hand-in-hand with being a portable device, but I like how easy it is to change your experience just by changing stems, adding a bong, etc. I’d like to completely switch to vaping and I think having those options will help.
Reliability/repairability. While I’m new to dry herb vaping, I have been vaping nicotine for over a decade, so I’m broadly familiar with similar devices. I really like what I’ve read about Tinymight 2 in this regard. I even saw the guy say that if the threads on the battery compartment strip (very common in my experience with nicotine vapes,) he’ll just send out a new top piece with instructions on how to replace it yourself if you don’t want to ship your device in for repair. That is very attractive to me, especially considering the price of the device.
Ease of use. I don’t mind an initial learning curve at all, but once I’ve figured the device out, I don’t want to continue fiddling with it. I’m not interested in anything requiring an external heat source for this reason. I appreciate that this is a fun hobby for some, but I just want to dial in the settings I like, push a button, and get high, not build a mad science lab on my desk.
So with all those considerations, is the TM2 the device for me?
I’m not sure… The TM2 is one hell of a fun vaporizer - but think of it more like a Ferrari or McLaren. It’s an insanely powerful device built by a small brand for a nice market (exotic vaporizer collectors). Yes it is one hell of a device. BUT not the device I’d bring out in public all the time because it’s not the most durable, it’s expensive, and it produces a massive cloud that you don’t always need.
Right now the S&B Mighty is one of the top-selling higher powered portables on the market. It has dual batteries so it has a very long battery life (and overall lifespan, because it splits the power demand between two battery cells, putting half the stress on each battery cell). Plus I believe it has pass-through charging so you can use the device while charging (at least the original Mighty, I don’t know for certain about the Mighty+).
HOWEVER a little birdie in the industry told me that S&B is working on a new vaporizer which should hit the market VERY soon. So I bet you’ll see mightys on sale in the very near future.
All that said, I think you might want to explore the world of butane powered portables! If stealth is not a concern, check out the Lotus vaporizer (formerly it’s own brand… then discontinued, now recently resurrected by another butane brand called Vapman). Also the Dynavap Vapcap has a cult-like following for a very good reason.
Although you did say you don’t want an external heat source…
So now I’m trying to figure out what other high powered portables would be worth considering…
Yeah maybe the TM2 will be a good fit for you personally.
Just know that the heater is extremely high powered and you might find the vapor a bit too hot/harsh on it’s own. So you may need to use mods like aftermarket stems. I myself made a 3D printed stainless steel stem (and detachable mouthpiece) with a helix twist internally to cool down the vapor a bit more.
Have you looked at the Solo2 at all? It would be a much more user-friendly device from a reputable company with a ton of different stem options. It also provides some of the best tasting vapor from any portable device I’ve handled.
Regardless, know that there is no “Best” device for every user in every situation. Additionally know that using a device becomes habitual and it’s good to switch up devices once or twice a year to help reset your tolerances. Not always does this mean upgrading to a more powerful device, sometimes switching back to a lower powered device like the Xmax V3 pro in session mode can be helpful to reset your tolerances.
Have you considered desktops? Desktops give you a lot more flexibility and versatility straight out of the box with minimal or no mods. I’m a big fan of the Arizer ExtremeQ (or the upgraded model - the XQ2 - they’re both basically the same device with a few extra LED light colors lol)
Thanks for the detailed response. You gave me a lot to look at and consider, but it still seems like the TM2 ticks the most boxes for me. I just want to be able to grab a device, take a couple of rips, set it down, and then go enjoy my high. Long sessions, desktop devices, complicated processes, and excessive gear are not attractive to me.
I know I’d be jumping in the deep end with a hobbyist device, but I would rather deal with the growing pains of a learning curve than end up with something that doesn’t mesh well with my personal consumption habits.
Interesting point about switching up your methods to help with tolerance. I’ll keep that in mind.
Oh no I totally get where you’re coming from. But I think you’re under-estimating just how hot the TM2 gets on your throat. You’re going to want mods to make it smoother.
Other vaporizers like the Mighty have a fancy cooling unit built into the design which yields a very smooth rip.
Keep in mind that you can’t really restart a device at the same temp with the same load (you can but vapor production and taste take a big hit). So keep in mind that you’ll want to temp step or microdose and reload if your goal is only to take few puffs and put away the vape. Even with a fully preheated desktop, it’s hard to fully extract everything from 0.10g in a few short puffs - the herb just doesn’t cook that fast since it’s not an oil concentrate with a heater wrapped around a wick - we never get instant complete vapor extraction.
Have you ever looked at a Dynavap Vapcap? Its ok if the torch turns you off - they sell or you can build your own electric induction heater which is essentially a fancy electric coil that heats the metal surface of the vapcap almost instantly to vaping temperatures. No torch needed. Just saying - there’s a very big reason why they have a cult following and it’s not just the price
I just recently got my first portable dry herb vape, the arizer air max, and it fits most of the criteria you are looking for. I highly recommend it, here is the link. https://arizer.com/airmax/
Op, don’t forget to take a look at AVLP and xlux ruffo. Also if you’re into 510s you can get a heavy hitter for a reasonable price.
So I started with the POTV Xmax Pro v3, moved to the Mighty+, then picked up a Tinymight 2.
I moved off the xmax, because I wanted more flavor, less burn, more ease of use.
The Mighty+ is great, but after multiple sessions, my throat would start getting rough. I went down the path of getting a whip and water filtering through a bong, which is great, but mostly for desktop use.
That led me to the Tinymight with a bubbler stem, which has become my daily driver. On demand handheld heavy hits filtered through water. It produces vapor in about 7 seconds, vs the 20+ it takes starting a session with the mighty.
The TM2 is a great vape I think you will love as long as you read the manual. There is a tiny learning curve compared to the Mighty+, but it’s worth it.
Things I’ve learned along the way:
- For me, starter vapes aren’t worth the time or money. I should have skipped the xmax
- The Mighty+ has temperature control with a digital screen. I thought I’d want to tinker with temperature more often, but it’s more set it and forget it that I thought. The Crafty+ may have been sufficient for me in retrospect, knowing that
- Dosage capsules rule
- I started out thinking I wanted sessions, but I’m finding I like on-demand more
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like we’re on similar wavelengths. What dosing capsules do you use? I saw that there are a couple of official styles available, with v1 being more like a mesh basket and v2 being more solid sided. Any issues with using them with 3rd party stems or anything?
Your other 3 bullet points are all things I’ve already thought about. If I had purchased the XMAX myself instead of borrowing it, I think I would have been disappointed. It has shown me what vaping can be, but I just don’t really enjoy using it.
I also think that I will likely be a “set it and forget it” type of person with the temperature control. I’ve experimented with temp stepping on the XMAX and it’s interesting, for sure, but I definitely prefer the effects of getting everything at once. I might dial it down occasionally to medicate without getting stoned on particularly bad mental health days, but that wouldn’t be a regular thing (hopefully.) Outside of that, I’d probably just leave it at 7 or 8 all the time.
And finally, regarding session vs. on-demand, I will likely be in on-demand most of the time. I like to get high and then put everything down and go enjoy my high. Then when I’m not as high as I want to be anymore, I can use more and repeat the process. I do see the value in something like the Mighty for passing around with friends, but I’m mainly looking for a daily driver personal device right now and long “sessions” have never been my preferred method of consumption.
2 more questions:
Is the bubbler stem you mentioned the official Tinymight one? I haven’t fully researched it, but from what I’ve seen, it looks like it would be fairly awkward to load without spilling water. EDIT: Maybe this is where the dosing capsules come in handy?
Have you experienced any of the common issues with the button, uneven extraction (although from what I’ve read, this seems like part of the learning curve, rather than a flaw in the device,) excessive heat, etc.? Any other issues?
The bubbler stem and dosage capsules came from vgoodiez. You can load the bubbler with your mouth if you’re worried about spilling.
Capsules make maintenance minimal, I just blow out the chamber, and swab it once In a while, and throw the hot ass capsule In a paper towel, rub it around to clean off outside resin, and let it cool before collecting the ABV.
I would agree that uneven extraction is part of the learning curve. I’ve noticed rings when I’ve packed it too tight for too low of a temperature, and try making up for it by ripping it more frequently and aggressively than I know I should be doing.
I’ve only had it a fews month, I still use the Mighty+ as well, because it’s smooth and fun in its own way, but currently favoring the TM2 for its speed, size, and accessories. I can connect the TM2 to the same water pipe without a whip. I don’t feel comfortable inverting the Mighty+, some people do.
TM2 obviously has less battery life. Using it primarily at home, I typically just plug it back in after every session or two. The Mighty+ I wait until it’s pretty low to recharge.
The Mighty+, I’m considering making “stem milk”, because dismantling the cooling unit and scrapping out the reclaim, and swabbing is extremely tedious. You’ll end up acquiring more cooling units to procrastinate.
The TM2 has been easier for me to clean, but I have not tried the stock stem and cooling unit.
The Mighty+ feels okay in hand, like I am holding a gameboy. The TM2 feels great, it’s natural wood and metal.
The only issue I had with the TM2 was a light blinking issue when I first received it, I was able to google for a solution. I had to turn the power all the way down, then all the way up, then down to where I wanted it. Haven’t had a problem since.
I have the Mighty and the Mighty 2 that I use as my everyday. I can’t speak to the tiny mighty but the quality of their products it too notch.
