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I quit a job once when I had a vacation planned well in advance and my manager told me 2 weeks before I was going to go, “Oh by the way there’s this time intensive project you have to have done before you go.” It was something that would either require me to work 12-14 hours a day to get done in time, as a salaried employee, or miss my vacation.
My response was, lol, here’s my two weeks notice. That was just the straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back. I hated that manager, and don’t regret my decision even though it did take a while to find another job
Me when I had to deny pto requests because the person who did our scheduling was a moron : " I can’t schedule your PTO for that but if you call out its only one point against your attendance even if you miss multiple days… soo do with at information what you will"
So I put in a week for around christmas, 30 days prior. My boss comes to me 2 weeks later and says “actually we have to do inventory that week so we need you to stay.” I asked, why dont we do it this week instead and was told essentially “this is when management needs it done” so I said cool do it without me. Came back from vacation, never got in trouble and actually got offered a raise like 1 month later lol. Place was fucking toxic tho so I left.
If I give you notice before you have finalized the schedules for that month then it’s not a request. I am letting you know I ain’t gonna be there and you need to sort that out lol.
In the Netherlands it’s illegal for the employer to deny a vacation request more than 4 weeks in advance. At least in my work field.
Sooo what’s the pathway for immigration in the Netherlands? Lol
Is this a normal thing in the US? I live in the UK and I don’t think I’ve ever had a vacation request denied in my whole life, even when I submit them with less than two weeks notice.
They’ll cancel the day of in some places within the US. Typically fast food and retail power tripping managers pull this because they don’t know how to utilize the crew they have. This is why we tell everyone never to answer work calls on your day off.
I had that in Germany once or twice, but it was always that I’ve put the request in on short notice, we were a pretty small team, so three people at once wasn’t quite possible. But it was always the young parents planning a vacation during school holidays with their kids, so I understand that this collided and took my vacation outside those holidays.
Entirely depends on the job, and also some states have more protections than others. “Hustle culture” is really engrained over here though and there can be a lot of guilt for many people around asking for time off, both internalized guilt for the worker and actual guilt tripping from managers if you have a toxic work place.
We don’t have a culture of going on holiday in America like parts of Europe do, so I think it’s not as normalized and there’s often a feeling of pressure to only do it when others aren’t so that the company is still well staffed.
It’s all very toxic, but I think people are also starting to realize how toxic it is in the past several years and there’s more and more acknowledgement between workers at least that we should be taking our time off.
Not that I’ve seen
Same, the closest I’ve come is I’ve looked at the holiday rota and gone “wow it’s literally just me and the manager in that week, probably best to book the week before or after”
I relate to this so hard. Like, I wasn’t asking you if I could go. I’ve booked it, I’ve given you notice, if you are still blindsided when I’m gone, that’s on you.
I hit the point in my professional life when I just stopped asking for time off.
I started using phrases like “I will be out from July 15th to August 9.”, “I won’t be in that day.”, “Sorry that conflicts with my schedule.”.
For a while I kept getting random calls for stuff while I was on vacation. That’s about the time I started carrying 2 phones. The work phone and laptop got left at home.
Why 2 phones instead of dual SIM? Leaving the work SIM at home, of course.
You don’t even have to leave the work Sim at home, a lot of phones allow you to just disable the SIM card in your settings. For example my phone has three SIM card slots in the settings. It has the primary sim, Sim 2 and then it has the esim. Granted I only use sim one and Sim 2 is a SIM card for a pay as you go style carrier that way if I ever get in trouble with my current carrier I can just activate it and go.
Back when I was in retail, Sim 2 was my “work sim” , paid for by the company, when I clocked out for the day I just turned it off
Less wear and tear on the phone as well by doing that
That’s the way. I have three phones, the two non-work phones are 1. for friends and family, 2. for everybody else. On top of that, one of these is actually a dumb phone. Can’t stand the distractions.
