- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
-
Exit polls show opposition conservatives win German election
- Conservative chief Friedrich Merz on track to become chancellor
- Far-right AfD scores historic result
- Coalition talks could last months leaving vacuum at heart of EU
BERLIN, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Germany’s opposition conservatives won the national election on Sunday, putting leader Friedrich Merz on track to be the next chancellor while the far-right Alternative for Germany came in second on its best ever result, projected results showed.
Following a campaign roiled by a series of violent attacks, and interventions by U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration, the conservative CDU/CSU bloc won 28.7% of the vote, followed by the AfD with 19.8%, the projection published by ZDF public broadcaster showed.
“Tonight we will celebrate, and from tomorrow we start working. … The world out there is not waiting for us,” Merz, 69, told supporters.
Merz is heading into what are likely to be lengthy coalition talks without a strong negotiating hand. While his CDU/CSU emerged as the largest bloc, it scored its second worst post-war result.
It remains unclear whether Merz will need one or two partners to form a majority. A three-way coalition would likely be much more unwieldy, hampering Germany’s ability to show clear leadership.
All of the mainstream parties have ruled out working with the AfD.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s Social Democrats (SPD) tumbled to their worst result since World War Two, with 16.4% of the vote share, according to the ZDF projection, while the Greens were on 12.3% and the far left Die Linke party on 8.9% of the vote.
The pro-market Free Democrats (FDP) and newcomer Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance (BSW) party hovered around the 5% threshold to enter parliament.
Context for the non-Germans: The CDU has led our government for 16 out of the last 20 years. The CDU leading is not a significant shift. But the pressure that’s being put on by the AfD is certainly an issue.
It’s way too early to put on a tin foil hat — and I know nothing about the German election to base this on — but given Trump’s comments about Musk potentially helping him commit voter fraud in the USA, paired with Elon’s constant meddling in Germany lately, is it too far to suggest that there may be enough evidence to consider that Elon may have meddled in the German election?
I see a lot of people blaming Americans for voting in a fascist, and sure, a lot definitely did; but enough doubt has been sewn for me that I’m not even certain that they did vote Donald Trump in
That’s not really a conspiracy theory. It’s a pretty open, two pronged attack from both Russia and United States.
The former does its regular disinformation spam constantly. As for the US recently we had:- JD Vance attacking European democracies for “being against free speech” (during a freaking security conference).
- … and during CPAC.
- Twitter and Meta approving propaganda ads.
- Twitter (and TikTok) serving right-wing biased feeds to their German users.
And much much more.
If we’re talking about Musk specifically he:
- Took part in AFD’s campaign meeting.
- Kept boosting AFD on Twitter before elections.
- Had multiple comments attacking democratic parties and saying that AFD should be the ones ruling Germany etc.
Neither side is even pretending they’re aren’t trying to upend democracies and replace them with far-right autocracies.
You can leave off your tinfoil hat; the surveys (by many different organisations) predicted this result fairly accurately.
Appreciate it. I wish it was a tin-foil conspiracy; the reality is much more grim. We want this, apparently.
God dammit Germany
Cdu/csu are “conservatives” but also a whole lot of other things and nothing like the GOP. Afd surge is sad but not as bad as many feared.
The fact that AfD is progressing is what I’m mostly concerned about.
Merkel seemed rational.
Awesome -_-
Let’s just get ww3 going already. Hopefully the nukes wipe out humanity. We have no right to exist
Don’t get too caught up in thinking about desserts (who deserves what, in the moral sense). That path can lead to a downward spiral.
Instead try to focus on some positive things that you can do to change your life (or the lives of people around you) for the better. You will feel much better that way.
You can go, we aren’t going anywhere.
Speak for yourself