• @[email protected]
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      267 hours ago

      Also and I seen this with covid too, we tend to concentrate on deaths and barely talk about the damage done by disease when you survive.

      • @[email protected]
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        With these people, they think the long term effects are fabricated or exaggerated. Death is a lot harder to make alternative explanations for.

        • @[email protected]
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          I have few in my family.

          One likely contributed to the death of another as he convinced his brother in law to not get the vaccine.

          He now goes with the explanation that the hospital killed him. Ignores (or comes with new conspiracy theories) when asked why his brother in law needed to go to hospital if it was just cold?

          You know what’s funny? When he eventually caught covid (fortunately for him it was omicron variant, the other family member got delta). When he was sick he was willing to take anything, including a full bag of monoclonal antibodies (do you know how many microchips they could fit in one bag???) but then doctors didn’t want to give it to him.

          Of course after he recovered, he resumed talking about conspiracy theories.

        • @pivot_root
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          Death is a lot harder to make alternative explanations for.

          If only. A lot of dumbasses will justify it away as “God’s will.”

        • TheEmpireStrikesDak
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          We have family back in India and someone died from covid, but that still wasn’t enough to convince the antivaxxers in my family here in the UK.

          My mum ended up on a ventilator, because she got brainwashed by them into thinking it’s no big deal and covid isn’t even real, it’s just a cold (she was in the shielding group). Then one of the most insane members of my family tried to convince my dad to tell the doctors to take my mum off the ventilator, because the ventilator is a big conspiracy and will kill her. Luckily another family member got wind of it and intervened. My mum pulled through but was weakened by long covid.

          Some of these people are truly unhinged. They’re so detached from reality, it’s unbelievable.

          Another example is the YouTuber Sheeps and Neeps. He was a flat earther, so of course it followed he was into all the anti-science stuff. He got cancer, put his money where his mouth was, and did his own “natural” treatment. He died.

          • @[email protected]
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            I am unfortunately aware and it is sad. Which is why I had to qualify that it is harder, but not impossible for them to ignore death statistics. It’s crazy how deeply held some of these beliefs are to some people.

  • @[email protected]
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    188 hours ago

    I can’t leave. I see the sheer stupidity, I want to distance myself from it, but I’m stuck on this planet. No matter how hard I want to live on Mars, I can’t, and it’s not fair.

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      Honestly at this point, I don’t need a ship or even a suit, just shunt me straight out into the cold vacuum of space. I just don’t want to die on this rock, let my corpse drift among the stars until it gets caught in a gravity well and pulled into our Sun.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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        13 hours ago

        cold vacuum

        Well, is it? The air can be hot or cold.
        On sunlight or in shade of some object?

        The outside of ISS heats up to 250°F (121°C) in sunlight. That’s not quite cold.

      • @officermike
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        I’d like to see them leave for Mars. Don’t care if they actually make it there.

    • @expatriado
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      if Mars get populated, bunch of Musk fanboys would be among the first to volunteer, so i pass

      • Psaldorn
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        Wouldn’t be long before they convinced themselves the outside air was breathable and staying inside was infringing on their liberties.

        I hear the perchlorates are lovely this time of year.

      • @[email protected]
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        The SpaceX mission to Mars more and more look like FSD in Tesla.

        There’s no way a company will bet on such risky mission, that if it failed it would completely kill it. It would actually have to be financed by a government, but as they are dismantling it, it also looks less likely.

        We have much better chance for future if we can stop pollution and stop climate change. The billionaires think that they can simply run to Mars, but it won’t be in their lifetime.

        Also if somehow it will be successful, it won’t be for us, unless maybe sending us as a slave labor.