The shitty part about that system is people want to be powerful so they make characters that usually fit within their class. Meaning dump stats. And suddenly the barbarian, with an int of a sapient rock, has an idea but cannot voice it in character because their char is “stupid”. The exact opposite for mages or bards - the bard is a “face” that talks to everyone for the checks. Worse yet with charisma checks - a dude that doesn’t know how to be as charismatic as a 20 stat bard, suddenly needs to be a smoothtalker (since charisma is treated differently in many tables, it’s not just “I try to distract the guard by talking at him”, it’s “I tell him XYZ”)

I don’t play DnD to be charismatic.

I play DnD to do things I can’t do in real life - have a group of friends, kill the rich and buy a house.

To myself: “it’s a joke it’s a joke it’s a joke…”

Yelling: “THE OTHER STATS ARE THERE TOO LIKE INTELLIGENCE AND STRENGTH! CHARISMA ISN’T A “POWER” AND MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DUMP IT BUT…”

I dunno, of course there’s rizz as a stat. Strength is how well you bonk and charisma is how well you talk. You don’t need to be able to lift what you character can and charisma can reflect more subtle things that, even if you could irl, are harder to work into a game. That said, even with -1 I regularly get through conversations because my DM rewards good roleplaying by not making us roll for everything.

Sorry for the ramble.