• _haha_oh_wow_
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    889 hours ago

    There’s a simple explanation for that: It’s just because of how it is.

  • AmDread
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    75 hours ago

    Now showing the true face of one third of our registered voters. Untied Scams of Ambivalence with beloved shill, Pump and Dump Rump. The bloated corrupt personification of everything that is wrong with us. Step right up!

  • @rickdg
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    -39 hours ago

    That includes the democratic party.

    • @[email protected]
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      398 hours ago

      We agree. We have about 3 years until the next presidential election cycle, maybe, and we either need to challenge the Democratic party, or improve it.

      Instead of pessimism, do you have any ideas?

      • @grue
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        114 minutes ago

        We have a year and a half to reform the Democrats before the midterm elections. If they win then just because of pure backlash without reform, they’ll take it as a neoliberal status quo mandate and use it as an excuse to sleepwalk into entrenched fascism even more.

      • @rickdg
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        31 hour ago

        Small donations only.

        • @[email protected]
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          Absolutely. Political funding is broken thanks in large part to citizens United. Campaign finance reform certainly should be a campaign item for any progressive candidate.

        • @[email protected]
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          126 hours ago

          1000%, let’s encourage people to vote in democratic primaries anytime we see this “both sides” sentiment. Thank you!

          • @oakey66
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            64 hours ago

            Let’s encourage progressives to actually run.

            • @[email protected]
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              Are suggesting that there were no progressives that ran in the last Democrat Primary?

              -I ask because I voted for one, but I was only allowed to after the presidential candidate had been selected.

              • @oakey66
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                Not at all. I just mean we need to flood local politics with progressive candidates. When that happens, there’s not enough eyes on all the political posts so chances are greater that we can affect change.

          • HubertManne
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            im 100% onboard to get rid of the democrats but only once the republicans are gone or insignificant. If an alternative party starts winning elections I will take that into account to but right now and pretty much since 2000 not having republicans is my main focus as well as democratic primaries. One thing is I don’t think its good to vote for the democrat that can win. I vote the primaries based on who I actually want in the roll.

            • @[email protected]
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              75 hours ago

              I agree on every point, though I do feel like alternative parties to the Democrats can be successful in local and state elections, much like how the tea party has found some successes in more local politics. And I would say if locally people start successfully voting in more progressive alternatives, it will result in irrefutable proof that progressive policies are the winning move.

              But, that starts local. It starts small, not big. And it starts where politicians impact you the most, your local community.

              • @[email protected]
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                These plans and ideas sound eerily similar to the ones I hear or read every election cycle. What about them would be significantly different this next time around?

                • @[email protected]
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                  Unfortunately, not much given that this is the framework of the American democratic process. But, I think talking about it, openly and inviting new ideas to the mix, and encouraging people to vote in every election is a needed part of the process, while pessimism without solutions serves nobody and hinders progress.

                  It’s appropriate to be frustrated, but eventually we have to channel that frustration into action or it will disincentive everyone else from even trying.

                  Personally, I wish we had the economic freedom and class consciousness necessary to effectively protest. Eventually our economic troubles might be bad enough to completely override our “gotta make ends meet” inertia, but I hope we can improve things before that happens.

                  Do you have any ideas as to what we could do differently or more efficiently? We joke about it, but even revolution isnt out of the question if you can get enough support, the problem as always is that broad support.

              • HubertManne
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                35 hours ago

                I actually did this more before but the republicans have just infiltrated to much so even with local I have to vote anti republican. I live in a liberal state but a sorta conservative area (old school conservatives that are aghast at maga so its pretty much swung democrat but its risky to vote 3rd party. successfully fought of maga crazies trying to get into school boards and such.)

                • @[email protected]
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                  13 hours ago

                  I think that’s appropriately cautious. It may be more safe and feasible in solidly blue cities/towns/districts, and it will have to get a lot more support than the tea party did for it to have any hope at spreading to “battleground” elections without serious risk.

      • SuiXi3D
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        157 hours ago

        We’ve been telling them to move further left than further center for years, and yet they wonder why they keep losing elections.

        • @Eldritch
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          117 hours ago

          There’s a lot of reasons they’re losing election. One of the least of which is that they are too far right.

          Full disclosure I am anarchist/anarco communist. Yes democrats should move left. But it isn’t some sort of Panacea that would see them suddenly start winning elections regularly. Democrats moving left would see a lot of the party’s funding evaporated. Which on one hand would be good. Because a lot of that funding is coming from some of the worst people. But on the other hand. Campaigns have been made very expensive. It would put Democrats at a distinct disadvantage, and see them losing just as much if not more than they already are. Without that money. Yet it is still the lazy go to answer.

          The truth is Democrats don’t even need to move left one iota to start winning again. All it needs to happen is for us to stop leaving everything to National leadership. Which is bought and owned. Completely disconnected from all constituency other than the donors. We need to revitalize state democratic parties. Have them take leadership back.