• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5822 hours ago

    I suppose he doesn’t realise the huge energy input required, and which the US lacks, to produce aluminium.

    They’re not coming back, you doofus. It’s not just a case of relocating manufacturing, you also would need to massively expand US baseload, and that is not happening. I mean, you cough in the direction of Texas and their entire grid collapses.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      6522 hours ago

      These are not protectionist tariffs. He’s not trying to encourage US manufacturing.

      He’s trying to get other countries to bend the knee, and abandon their right to regulate their economy and their environment.

      • @Pilferjinx
        link
        18 hours ago

        Honestly, we don’t know what he actually thinks. I think every conspiracy has a bit of merit, which, through its unpredictable nature, is very destabilizing.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        56
        edit-2
        22 hours ago

        To paraphrase the old saying: Canada can remain independent longer than the US can remain solvent.

      • Baggins [he/him]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        1721 hours ago

        Someone posted that all his actions make sense if you think he’s a Russian asset and the underlying purpose (even if he doesn’t know it) is to damage US global influence and control. He’s already doing an excellent job of this by alienating their closest allies.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          419 hours ago

          I’m opposed to this oversimplification, even if he’s a confirmed Russian asset we can’t just imagine that erasing Trump and Putin will solve everything.

          Fascism has reared its head and it wasn’t just due to Putin and Trump. Real systemic change is required in the politics and the economy of the United States.

          If they just go back to Bidening things up after Trump and assume everything is great there’s going to be a very rude awakening.

          We can’t keep iteratively adopting Fascism, technological advances and the interdependence of the global economy has already made it so this time might destroy us all. Next time definitely will.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          421 hours ago

          Oh it’s 100% the case. And even knowing it I’m still playing into Russian hands and now am against America. He has enough support that the average American is just as bad.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        821 hours ago

        Tarrifs are definitionally protectionist, but i take your point about intention.

        The whole strategy is a recipe for disaster. A recipe that contains no eggs, obviously, and is served in the form of a paste.

    • kbal
      link
      fedilink
      821 hours ago

      Huge demand for energy, you say? Sounds like just what Trump is looking for to help bring back the coal mining industry. Acid rain and mercury pollution for everyone will make America great again.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    2221 hours ago

    He just loves hitting the American beer and soda market with punch after punch to the gut. Even with 50% tariffs they have no choice but to buy our aluminum. Get fucked trump. Can’t wait to read your obituary.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    917 hours ago

    Ford just backed down. Ford acts tough but he’s a giant pussy.

    Ontario has agreed to suspend its 25 per cent surcharge on electricity exports to the U.S., a joint statement from Premier Doug Ford and U.S. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick states.

    • @Lulzagna
      link
      110 hours ago

      He didn’t, yet - he’s meeting with Trump on Thursday.

      I’m not defending him, but didn’t spread BS until we know for sure he went limp dick on us.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      416 hours ago

      He also is a mega Trump fan, the surcharges were performative theatre. He may have stuck with them, but we all know he was hoping he could weasel out of it somehow.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      117 hours ago

      I agree to a point, he should have kept the 25% surcharge in place until he gets back from the shake down he is walking into down in DC.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    918 hours ago

    Where are the Teamsters these days? I hear they don’t like people messing with their livelihoods.

  • Victor Villas
    link
    fedilink
    1119 hours ago

    The same tariffs that the auto makers in the US told him to undo otherwise they’d be in trouble… sounds clever.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    517 hours ago

    Trump: fuck you Canada

    Canada: no, fuck you Trump

    Trump: uh… Double fuck you Canada!

    Big Auto: STHAP THE LINE GO DOWN AHHHHH!

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    1522 hours ago

    Need auto companies to speak up for Canada instead of being quiet, even if they lobby WH quietly.

    Cheaper electricity and steel/aluminum and $ in Ontario (due to less purchases from US) is a higher cost advantage for Ontario/Quebec to make cars. Making a strategic reserve of metals (at low price to keep Canadian employment in sector) is further opportunity to enhance manufacturing costs, and commitments to Canadian manufacturing that can be relied long term, and then later dump metal on US.

    Much sooner, rather than not soon enough, better relations with the enemies US has programmed us to make enemies, is needed. Only coded references to Asian trade are referenced, but no high level diplomacy announcements.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    Meh. Remember how he made Mexico pay for the wall? But really it was the American public that paid for it? Ahahahaha. Orange insecure man.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    5
    edit-2
    20 hours ago

    I love how his response is to hurt America even more, lol, this guy is a goon. How embarassing for Americans.

  • bluGill
    link
    fedilink
    421 hours ago

    I’m surprised he has that power. Taxes should come from congress.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    3
    edit-2
    20 hours ago

    It all comes together when you remember he’s acting on orders from Putin to weaken his own country. Some of the first actions he took were to A) Stop helping Ukraine to take strain off Putin, and B) Start weakening the US economy by angering trade partners. Canada is the biggest trade partner of the US so naturally we got hit first and hardest.

    But the US is the land of greed and maximum profit so they don’t actually make much there any more. Canada has a healthy internal economy that just got a big boost from lowered inter-provincial trade barriers whereas the US does not do as much trade internally. They rely heavily on imports of goods and raw materials, especially from Canada.

    Canada will hurt from this but we have materials and the world is full of customers, so we can adjust strategy and adapt. The US? They need to buy these materials and they just gave the middle finger to the entire rest of the world. The US will hurt so much more in the long run, and I’m sure that is entirely why Donald is doing this. Even if the US were to invade it still wouldn’t fix their shattered economy as all trade with Canada would cease and they would have to find a way to obtain said materials and send them south all while fighting a multi-million strong resistance that would likely be assisted by foreign powers. All while their own economy would collapse and internal unrest might turn into civil revolt or even civil war. None of the states that border Canada are going to want a conflict on their soil and border cities are so close together that US citizens will suffer too.

    There is no situation where the US walks away as a winner, but I’m sure that is exactly what Putin ordered. This is a highly planned attack on the US by itself, taking pressure off Russia and leaving the pacific open to China.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      -220 hours ago

      he’s acting on orders from Putin to weaken his own country

      People need to stop believing liars repeating this meme. He is picking easier wars to win than the losing war on Russia. When you believe this tripe, that everything is for master Putin, you support stupidity and evil in retaliating vs Russia. Even if US and Russia become allies, any country isolating themselves as enemies of both, destroys itself. Infighting among colonies and Mexico has been the divisive success of Trump. Stupidly keeping the same enemies that are historically pure propaganda programing by US empire, is a loyalty to your enemy. Deprogram yourself from this garbage.