• @[email protected]
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      661 year ago

      And arch does the exact same thing as Ubuntu :/ not sure what they are trying to say with this one.

      • @RockyBass
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        121 year ago

        Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process

      • Séra BalázsOP
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        Mine just kills the power. Faster than manually unplugging the pc

        • @[email protected]
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          Did you configure it that way? I’m fairly sure the default is to safely shutdown via systemd. How do disk caches get flushed, are you setup to never cache in memory, or do you just lose data?

          • Séra BalázsOP
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            31 year ago

            I don’t know what I did but it does that anyway, and I think it’s cool. I like to use my pc in the very very not recommended way so I’m not 100% sure if it’s normal behavior, but it did that on multiple installs so it probably is

    • Freeman
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      It is. Just never says what’s hung.

      Frankly It’s more like

      Windows - “shut down please. No it’s fine, I’ll wait. Indefinately is fine”

      Linux “ shut down please. You have 30 seconds or I’ll shut you down myself”

      • Séra BalázsOP
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        If my pc doesn’t shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it’s just affraid of me

    • @dorumon
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      I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12.

  • @flossdaily
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    201 year ago

    I remember going from MS-DOS to Windows and being really annoyed that I couldn’t see the loading log.

    Same with Android phones in the beginning when they were still the scrappy underdog. I wanted to see machinery at work!

    • spicy pancake
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      131 year ago

      I would rather watch console output I don’t understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[

  • @mvirts
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    Wait you guys don’t sudo echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger?

    • @[email protected]
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      331 year ago

      I think you’d have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write.

      • @[email protected]
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        141 year ago

        Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. I’d used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous.

          • @[email protected]
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            131 year ago

            It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn’t needed (we’re just using it to write with sudo), but it’s good to know.

      • @mvirts
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        Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot 😅

    • Sorrowl
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      There’s a kernel option to disable the text and it’s on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu.

      Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I’ve always used GRUB and the text hasn’t appeared for me until I’ve removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I’m remembering wrong.

      • Trantarius
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        I’m not sure that’s right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn’t change any kernel options. Also, I’ve never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo.

      • @GamingChairModel
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        it’s on by default on Arch

        I don’t think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don’t include the “quiet” parameter.

  • @ninsix
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    Correction: first image: Windows update second image: Arch Linux third image: Void Linux