I think that the additional weight on the water on the surface of the outer airplane body increases friction with the air, and also weight of the aircraft. But does the fuel consumption increase? And by how much?

  • @[email protected]
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    10 months ago

    Former C-130 Flight engineer here, it was my job to calculate performance data for takeoff and landing.

    Rain only matters because it increases stopping distance. It doesn’t affect engine performance, and it never even occurred to me that a wet airplane would be heavier than a dry one. To get a sense of weights we care about, our empty weight is ~90k pounds and our max (peacetime) takeoff weight is 155k pounds. Performance numbers are good for 5000 pounds, so even if the water weighs several hundred pounds we’d never notice.

    The most important factor in engine performance is the density of the air, which is driven by temperature and altitude. You get more power on cold days and at low altitude, less on hot days and high altitudes. (Which is why Denver has long runways)

    There is a decision tree when planning a takeoff, and extended stopping distances due to a wet runway sometimes pushes you to use a higher power setting which is a bit less efficient. So the answer to your question is maybe a little, sometimes, but not in the way you think.

    • @wolfpack86
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      310 months ago

      Rainy days will lower barometric pressure, so perhaps there’s a performance drop, but not by virtue of the water on the plane?

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        We do account for barometric pressure, but it’s generally a few tens of feet. So yeah, a teeny tiny bit, though you can have low barometric pressure without rain.

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          310 months ago

          Sorry I wasn’t clear, it’s the density of oxygen in the air. Rain will reduce that number, but by an immeasurably small amount.

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    1410 months ago

    Total guess but I imagine the increase in relative humidity impacts the combustion efficiency of the engine as well

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    If you consider the fuselage a cylinder and calculate the surface area of the lateral surface it’s 2pir*h. this site has the length as 209.08ft and the diameter as 20.3. That means the fuselage surface area is about 13300ft^2. That same site lists the wing surface area as 4605ft^2, for a total of 17905 square. Assuming an 1/8” of water accumulates uniformly, which is a bad assumption, that’s 2238 cubic feet of water. Each cubic foot weighs about 62 pounds, so that much water weighs 136000 pounds. The normal takeoff weight of a 777 is 534000 pounds, yeah that is a lot. However, only about half the surface area is exposed to rain and 1/8 inch is a lot. Id imagine it’s less than half that weight.

    • @freecandy
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      610 months ago

      Thats like 2.5 times the weight of fuel when full. Math is bad

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        It’s the upper bound of a plane fully covered with an eighth inch of water. Reading is hard.

        • @freecandy
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          610 months ago

          Youre probably the same kind of student I was. Shows that you know how to do the work, but don’t care enough to actually find the right answer

    • conciselyverbose
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      210 months ago

      I appreciate this answer. The other posts showing the math are still cool, but in theory I could do it myself.

      You highlighted shit that wouldn’t occur to me.

  • @GregorGizeh
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    110 months ago

    I don’t know much about it myself, but I would guess it is negligible. Maybe for small propeller machines with a fairly limited amount of fuel capacity; but larger planes, especially commercial ones, have reserve fuel for quite some time.

    Situations where landing at the destination is temporarily unavailable, air traffic requires the plane to circle for some time, or they are even rerouted to a different airport can always occur and are accounted for. A minor increase from rainfall shouldn’t make a dent. I would think.