• 小莱卡
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    412 years ago

    Liberals: “marxist-leninist? I though he was a communist!”

  • ButtigiegMineralMap
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    372 years ago

    I have to say that I feel like the Chinese Revolution of 1949 has been utterly betrayed and sold out. Things used to be great. Now? A Marxist-Leninist? Truly dark and unprecedented times in China. I supported them until now, I can’t support Extremism smh Free TaibetJiang

  • @[email protected]
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    342 years ago

    Pack it up guys, gals, and everyone in between, some lib slammed poor Xi with a verbal accusation that he is what he has always been. Communism will never recover. China will collapse tomorrow.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 years ago

      This just in, Liberals have SLAMMED lemmygrad user @MCU_H8ER with a SCATHING downvote. More to come an 7.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        62 years ago

        ‘When reached for comment, the lemmygrad user claimed that the libs anger actually was making him stronger. He then said he was going to lift some weights while listening to Parenti lectures.’

  • JTurtle
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    112 years ago

    i can’t find this video on f*x’s channel, probably fake but i also didnt search very well bc it’s still funny and i dont care.

    but if someone does have a link share it here, it look hilarious

  • Catasaur
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    72 years ago

    Crying, shaking, and shitting my pants rn. I don’t want this to be true

  • @Astroturfed
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    62 years ago

    Tankies are people who defend China (and originally the USSR)/any “communist” countries actions no matter what. While Xi is undoubtedly a tanky, the meme is just calling him a communist. Which isn’t even accurate honestly. I really wish we could move past communist/socialist being an insult. It isn’t. Any student of economics knows that the US and every European nation uses several of Marx’s 10 pillars of a communist society and socialist ideas.

    Pure capitalism hasn’t been around since the great depression for a reason. We’ve slowly matched back that direction since like the 50-60s. Which is a reason for a lot of the economic issues experienced in the West lately… We’re back to the age of robber barrens. It’s pretty lit.

  • SeaJ
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    -122 years ago

    If he is a communist, few is doing a shit job at it. China’s wealth disparity is on par with the US.

      • SeaJ
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        -42 years ago

        It has not and there is still massive wealth disparity.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          That has improved and continues to improve over the last several decades, and the wealth disparity is a whole order of magnitude less than the U.S.

          Billionaires in China are rich in name only. The only things they can get with money are a slightly fancier car and house, they aren’t able to buy elections.

          • SeaJ
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            -72 years ago

            The wealth disparity has been roughly the same for the last 20 years…

            China is an authoritarian one party state. There are not really elections to buy. And you would be daft to think a Chinese billionaire can only buy a slightly better house.

            • @[email protected]
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              32 years ago

              Not true.

              Author-onion-tar-elon-izuhm is a buzz phrase. All politics is authoritarian.

              Calling China a authoritarian one-party state is a non-insult. Its like calling a scientist intelligent and rational.

              China allows multiple parties and factions. The difference is that only socialism is allowed as the baseline.

  • @merthyr1831
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    -152 years ago

    the communist party of China is about as communist as the democratic republic of the congo is democratic

    • @[email protected]OP
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      132 years ago

      I’m going to attempt to reply to this earnestly.

      This rhetoric is common with actually existing socialist (AES) states. The reality is the world is very complex and transitions from one system to another can sometimes take centuries.

      Here is a brief video from Prof. Richard Wolff that explains some things about China and it’s system over the last few decades:

      https://youtu.be/_nY3VSmA-l8

      Also if you’re going to mention the Democratic Republic of the Congo, do you know about Patrice Lumumba?

      • @merthyr1831
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        -132 years ago

        I’ve seen all of this over the years, I’m not ignorant to Prof. Wolff nor the repeated claims that the socialism with Chinese characteristics is some 4-dimensional chess to deliver communism within some inspecific timeframe.

        But even in the CCPs own language and actions, it’s clear they’re much more interested in entrenching capitalism with a welfare state than they are transitioning to socialism.

        For a “socialist” state they seem very keen on repressing the Filipino maoist insurgencies, propping up the fascist Russian regime, and maintaining a domestic system of capital accumulation that was introduced as an infamous regression from socialist principles established after their numerous revolutions.

        China is objectively a lot better than many countries on dozens of metrics but calling it “actually existing socialism” is to misunderstand all three constituent words in that infamous acronym.

        Respond or not, I don’t expect to turn anyone’s mind here. Just sad that being a different brand of capitalism that is marginally more concerned with social development than its competitors is somehow the bar for socialism among some circles.

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          I don’t expect to turn anyone’s mind here

          Then why do you come here and offer only platitudes? There are plenty of things to criticize about China, about the USSR, etc. We could have nuanced discussions about these topics.

          Why do you believe the things you say? What is shaping your worldview? Can you point to a government you think is doing thing well currently, or at least heading in the right direction?

          • @[email protected]
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            92 years ago

            Because they are here to tell us that they are the only PURE and TRUE Marxist around, the noble Maoist, here to tell us ignorant revisionists how wrong we are for supporting a country that has undertaken the greatest poverty alleviation effort in human history. If Xi was really communist, he would’ve just pressed the big red communism button already! People’s QOL doesn’t improve over time, it’s a binary, you either have it or you don’t! And China clearly don’t! Love me, I’m a liberal Maoist!

          • Nocturne Dragonite
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            52 years ago

            No one ever responds to these real questions lol you ask for sources they disappear, you ask why they believe what they believe they check right the fuck out

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          I’ve often suspected that libs and maoists tend to say exactly the same shit about China, though granted, Maoists tend to at least understand what they’re talking about. Still strikes me as a little weird that this attitude has more in common with a liberal one than an ML one.

          Almost like a westerner lambasting China for not being communist enough does nothing but reinforce the average westerner’s perception of the place as an “evil hellhole.”