4 fixtures this week, with SA coming to Europe too
1515 WAL v RSA
1730 ITA v ROM
1730 IRE v ENG
2005 FRA v FIJ
Also on today
1530 GEO v USA
And the Top14 kicks off too!
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Another week, another English Red Card.
The highly opinionated folks on the old sub-reddit from the North used to regularly claim that the Southern Hemisphere was too soft on cards (for various reasons, not carding enough, then the 20 minute red) and that the stricter Northern Hemisphere processes would be an advantage as time went on as they would be so used to it they wouldn’t be doing these bad things anymore.
I think the truth is that the whole scheme of trying to reduce the tackle height without legislating to define a lower legal tackle was always going to be a bad approach in a professional era where coaches and teams will push all of the rules to the limit. The upcoming rule changes in various competitions that legislate a legal tackle height and force it much lower than the head need to be applied to the professional game as soon as possible.
It’s going to decide the world cup is the worry. 20 minutes a sensible compromise
Yup, the 20 minute card worked really well in Super Rugby.
For anyone that doesn’t know how it worked…
- Something happens that warrants a card.
- On field referee gives a Yellow* and sends for review, player goes to the sin bin.
- After review by the TMO, if warranted the card would get upgraded to Red; the captain gets notified - it could take up to 8 minutes to complete this step.
- The team would remain at -1 players until 20 minutes from the start of the original card.
- After 20 minutes the carded player can be replaced, returning the team to full strength.**
*It never happened that I can recall, but for something that would be a straight red like punching / kicking / biting the referee could still give that, it didn’t have to always be Yellow. **The player carded does not come back on, and automatically goes to the judiciary for further review & additional sanction.
What was great was the game kept going, no 5 minute break while the on field referee ran closer to a big screen and tried to figure out what had happened from a 1080p image blown up to 5m wide. It also took the crowd out of the decision as the TMO worked through it with access to all camera footage and a specialist TV assistant (for the video & camera angle stuff, not the laws).
Other than the actual sanction this is what the bunker does as well; and its a great innovation. I just wish the sanction had been adopted too, but the opposition that I heard was mostly that up north there was a belief that cynicism would see teams accept 20 minutes with 14 players if it meant they could injure an opposition player out of the game, which is just absurd but is how some folks look at the game I guess.
what a score-fest by South Africa against Wales
Early red in the Italian match, stupid clearout
@[email protected] I noticed something odd about this post… On my instance and even on sh.itjust.works I think it won’t show unless you view the top posts in the last 7 days. Doesn’t seem to appear if you sort by new or anything just looking at the community as a whole.
Welcome to the fediverse! It mostly works? I suspect either a caching issue or a sorting issue. Probably a SJW problem more, maybe the next version of Lemmy server software sorts it. Maybe I should raise a bug report also though
Italia vs Romania my pick of the matches
Wym? Like what you plan on watching? Cuz I’m watching England vs Ireland
Closest game I reckon. Others are dead rubbers
looks like USA vs Georgia is the closest game so far today. Even though Georgia kick our ass
Our turn next week vs The Lelos. I wish we’d seen USA kick on after MLR
FT in Cardiff, 16-52 and Wales are miles off things. I don’t think I’ve learned much about Scotland’s opener either. SA scrum a weapon, as expected. Card referral a yellow for me, carrier had significantly dipped
what you think about that yellow on the try against Wales ? Right call ?
Right call
I agree, did you see the Wales player give South Africa a try by passing it to them.
Lol, I missed that. Will have to check highlights tomorrow
HT in Dublin. 12-3 - I’m on a bus so only just following, Ireland lineout needing work I did catch
Just tuned in for France at 59’ and Fiji starting to slip away at 31-17. Mata making some great carries already
Fiji have played about three matches this year, and it showed.
France were playing a largely seconds side, and seemed to be wrapping some key players up in cotton wool, and it showed.
For all the Shawn Edwards talk, France have been pretty leaky in defence for the last 4 years. A lot of that is their tendency to switch off for twenty minutes, and they do seem to get away with it by and large.
Bielle-Biarrey looks every bit a twenty year old with a whole one season of pro rugby under his belt, though the hype machine seems to continue in the French press. I’m sure he’ll be fine.
Based on the last few weeks, I think Ireland are by far the best team heading into the WC. NZ/SA close behind. France behind them. Australia are improving and will go far given the easy draw. England look poor, but again they’re on the easy side of the draw.
Ireland and the quarter final curse though. France my pick for winners with their draw. SA and Ireland to knock ten shades of shit out each other to avoid NZ, who I expect to win their opener and hence the pool. England to make the semis, masking how bad they really are, with Wales bottling a quarter final even worse than Ireland usually manage
And Scotland to push both Ireland and SA but fail to escape. Despite them one of them playing the final
I get there’s an Ireland + quarter finals meme, but I honestly believe that most of those are easily explained, and this year feels different. Obviously, once we hit the quarters there are any number of teams who can all beat each other - especially on that side of the draw - so not predicting anything, but they really do look the real deal imo.
Fwiw, Greg Aldritt was on Le French Rugby Podcast after the 6N talking about their fitness prep saying that they front loaded serious work pre-/early-tournament and then lowered the intensity later on, which makes sense when you look at their performances throughout. I’m expecting them to maybe do something similar come WC, so also expecting NZ to take the opener.
Also still think anyone on the easy side of the draw who brings their a game has a good chance. Especially if the teams on the other side of the draw take lumps out of each other.
And yeah. Scotland will probably look better than any other team that’s gone out in the group stages, either before or since. Just can’t see them getting the edge on either IRE or SA.
I get it. But this year its still France or NZ. The meme continues. I really hope not, but alas
Quiet last 20, 34-17 - french defense looking solid, and fit. Fiji lacking anything other than blunt play, holding back ten moves?
